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  • D DrDirks

    I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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    AlphaMatrix
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    Visual InterDev 6.0 was always the weapon of choice back in the day.

    "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant."

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    • D DrDirks

      I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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      Johnny J
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      Notepad! ;)

      Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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      Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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        Notepad! ;)

        Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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        Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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        Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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        Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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        Wuss. vi.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

        "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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          Wuss. vi.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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          oh posh! What's wrong with ex?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          • D DrDirks

            I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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            Michael Bergman
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            AlphaMatrix is right.

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              Wuss. vi.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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              +5 for VIM POWER

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              • D DrDirks

                I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                artagens
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                I use araneae for the code and Filezilla for the upload. In html issues I take Namo. For debugging... hm. Normally you won't need a line debugger. Use Response.write for server-side and Response.write "alert('" & yourASPvalue & "')" for client-side outputs (or, its equivalent in mixed sources, alert('<%=yourASPvalue%>')). If it's this special sort of shabby source with html, javascript, Components, ajaxed UI and so forth... I'd recommend aborange Searcher, a writing pad and pen, and a large pot of coffee. A very large one :^) -Jürgen

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                • D DrDirks

                  I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                  Hi DrDirks, for writing code with syntax-highlighting you can take VS from 2002/03 till webdeveloper express 2010. Activate "Show line numbers". For debugging use <% Option Explicit %> in the second line of code - incidently it enhances the performance. Run the scripts on your MS webserver. In IIS 7(.5) you find the ASP section => Compilation => Debugging Properties: set every entry to "True" execpt "Logging to NT..." that you'll don't need. After that you should be able to get detailed error massages including the line-nummer of code the error arises.

                  cwp42

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                  • J Johnny J

                    Notepad! ;)

                    Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                    Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                    -----
                    Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                    -----
                    Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                    Chris Quinn
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                    Edlin

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Wuss. vi.

                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                      Daniel Casserly
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                      Real Programmers use Emacs (or butterflies) See here. [^]

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                      • D DrDirks

                        I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                        Try these: 1) Html-Kit http://htmlkit.com/[^] 2) Notepad++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org/[^] 3) Visual Studio Express editions

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                        • D DrDirks

                          I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                          RichardGrimmer
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                          May not be what you're after, but the Developer Tools in IE (F12) allow you to debug server side scripts....

                          C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                            May not be what you're after, but the Developer Tools in IE (F12) allow you to debug server side scripts....

                            C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                            RichardGrimmer wrote:

                            IE (F12) allow you to debug server side scripts

                            :confused:

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                            • D DrDirks

                              I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                              barrysauer
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                              Try notepad++

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                                Notepad! ;)

                                Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                                Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                                Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                                Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                                • R RichardGrimmer

                                  May not be what you're after, but the Developer Tools in IE (F12) allow you to debug server side scripts....

                                  C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                  I know it's supposed to be able to debug server-side scripts and Firebug in Firefox too. Bug I've never been able to get either to "see" any code inside <%%>. I've also never been able to find a way to open a file in the debugger that hasn't been loaded yet and set a break point. Most of what I need this type of debugging for is PayPal Instant Payment Notification integration. When PayPal sends my website a notification it goes to a .ASP file that has nothing but <%%> code in it, no GUI so to speak. So the IE and Firebug debuggers never stop in that code. Maybe there's a way to do this that I don't know of?

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                                  • D DrDirks

                                    I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                                    Member 7901751
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                                    Microsoft Expression Web (around $80 US) works perfectly for .asp sites. Debugging can be accomplished rather well with Chrome using the "IE Tab" if necessary for checking out problems.

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                                    • D DrDirks

                                      I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                                      For classic ASP I always use Crimson texteditor. It is fast, handles pure ascii with simple syntax highlighting, and has good handling of multiple documents, projects etc. Magnus

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                                      • D DrDirks

                                        I recently got pulled into a gig maintaining and improving a website that's written using ASP; NOT ASP.NET. I've been pulling my hair out trying to debug this stuff. I'm currently using the trial version of Dreamweaver which is making things worse because it crashes all the time and the debugger option is not visible on the menu. And don't get me started on its so-called designer...USELESS! I'd like to eventually rewrite this website using ASP.NET and C# but until that time I need to be able to quickly and easily fix issues and add features. What tools can anyone recommend for development and debugging? I'm used to Delphi and Visual Studio so don't even suggest command line tools. I want an IDE with built-in debugging or at least a good HTML/Javascript/VBScript editor that can integrate/interface with FTP to upload files and a server-side debugger. Thanks.

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                                        Hack n Whack
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                                        I had a similar gig a while back, perhaps even the same one. Maintaining a mammoth Classic ASP site with spaghetti, no worse, server side code and 1000's of pages, much of which was duplicated except for a word here or there. Nested includes, also duplicated, hardcoded connection strings all over the place, arghh. Finally had to tell the client I needed to move on, but I digress. VS works fine for debugging server side code. You have to set up IIS on your dev box to run the site locally, set IIS for local server debugging, run the site then from VS use Attach to Process to establish the connection to IIS. VS will break for you then. For client side debugging you can make use of IE's debugger (F12) or any of the other such as Firefox or Google's, they will step through client side javascript, oh wait, your site probably doesn't use javascript, not yet anyway (see below) :-). Once you get the debugging thing worked out you can slowly introduce more modern concepts such as javascript and ajax and even jump in and out of .NET for certain pages (I used MVC 3 cause the routing needs to be set properly, might be do-able for other view engines I dunno).

                                        Steve the Coffee Guy

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                                          Hi DrDirks, for writing code with syntax-highlighting you can take VS from 2002/03 till webdeveloper express 2010. Activate "Show line numbers". For debugging use <% Option Explicit %> in the second line of code - incidently it enhances the performance. Run the scripts on your MS webserver. In IIS 7(.5) you find the ASP section => Compilation => Debugging Properties: set every entry to "True" execpt "Logging to NT..." that you'll don't need. After that you should be able to get detailed error massages including the line-nummer of code the error arises.

                                          cwp42

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                                          Absolutely correct. Even full version Visual Studio 2010 still has the Intellisense for VBScript, and the HTML validation is very good. The deployment features of VS are fine, or you can use FileZilla for FTP transfers.

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