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  • T TorstenH

    I don't want my kids to go to a school where the teachers are not able to handle them. No need to get 'brutal', I assume a teacher is able to handle such a situation. But it's the 69' generation that is now teaching our kids. All needs to be discuss - no solution without everyone to agree.

    regards Torsten When I'm not working

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    TorstenH. wrote:

    No need to get 'brutal', I assume a teacher is able to handle such a situation

    You have only two choices when somebody loses control: Stand by and wait until it's over or you try to get a hold of and restrain that person. In the first case you don't really deal with anything and the second case requires at least some force. There will probably be a struggle and very quickly more than just some force may be needed. How quickly would the same parents who are now wondering about calling the police have accused the teachers of using too much force when dealing with their little brat? I really would not want to risk it.

    I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

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    • T TorstenH

      Police handcuff 6-year-old girl in Georgia[^] I hope she'll do fine in Guantanamo. With a little luck she will be back before turning 21.

      regards Torsten When I'm not working

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      I'm surprised they didn't tas her? Police seem to be resorting to that more now and I know them 6 yos. can be dangerous.

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        Police handcuff 6-year-old girl in Georgia[^] I hope she'll do fine in Guantanamo. With a little luck she will be back before turning 21.

        regards Torsten When I'm not working

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        The child was also observed "biting the doorknob of the office"

        I'd have let someone else sort her out too.

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          TorstenH. wrote:

          No need to get 'brutal', I assume a teacher is able to handle such a situation

          You have only two choices when somebody loses control: Stand by and wait until it's over or you try to get a hold of and restrain that person. In the first case you don't really deal with anything and the second case requires at least some force. There will probably be a struggle and very quickly more than just some force may be needed. How quickly would the same parents who are now wondering about calling the police have accused the teachers of using too much force when dealing with their little brat? I really would not want to risk it.

          I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

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          You don't have kids I assume. The only 'force' one needs to get a hold on those 6yo is the voice and authority.

          regards Torsten When I'm not working

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            The child was also observed "biting the doorknob of the office"

            I'd have let someone else sort her out too.

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            anxious? You could have thrown a chocolate bar or some gummy bears into the office. I bet that would have worked. According to the state of behavior my kids had over eastern (permanent sugar shock), I'm pretty sure some other kids I deal with have that state constantly throughout the year.

            regards Torsten When I'm not working

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              I'm surprised they didn't tas her? Police seem to be resorting to that more now and I know them 6 yos. can be dangerous.

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              damn dangerous! They have subliminal ways to get what they want. And one realizes not until too late.

              regards Torsten When I'm not working

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              • R Roger Wright

                There's nothing wrong with a girl of 6 years being given a chance to learn a second language, and Dari or Pashto[^] are not readily available in most American schools. By the time she is pardoned, she'll probably have offers from the State Department to work for them as an interpreter. Not a bad career move for a kid with only a kindergarten education! :-D

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                optimistic view. That's what I like.

                regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                • S Septimus Hedgehog

                  I haven't read it but was she carrying a gun at the time and a belt full of heroin? Don't pick on the US though. Here in the UK we have feral packs of kids roaming around estates where six-year-olds are quite normal.

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                  A shame indeed.

                  regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                  • T TorstenH

                    damn dangerous! They have subliminal ways to get what they want. And one realizes not until too late.

                    regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                    subliminal, not a lot of them I know.

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                    • T TorstenH

                      Police handcuff 6-year-old girl in Georgia[^] I hope she'll do fine in Guantanamo. With a little luck she will be back before turning 21.

                      regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                      "They don't have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child," said Salecia's father, Earnest Johnson.

                      Is it just me or is there something amiss in this sentence...

                      The child was also observed "biting the doorknob of the office and jumping on the paper shredder."

                      Rabbies?

                      Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                        "They don't have no business calling the police and handcuffing my child," said Salecia's father, Earnest Johnson.

                        Is it just me or is there something amiss in this sentence...

                        The child was also observed "biting the doorknob of the office and jumping on the paper shredder."

                        Rabbies?

                        Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                        Alberto Bar-Noy wrote:

                        Rabbies?

                        Is that a bunch of hydrophobic rabbis?

                        Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                        • T TorstenH

                          I don't want my kids to go to a school where the teachers are not able to handle them. No need to get 'brutal', I assume a teacher is able to handle such a situation. But it's the 69' generation that is now teaching our kids. All needs to be discuss - no solution without everyone to agree.

                          regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                          I bet you any money, you wouldn't want your kids going to that school because of the other children and their parents, not the administration.

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                          • T TorstenH

                            Police handcuff 6-year-old girl in Georgia[^] I hope she'll do fine in Guantanamo. With a little luck she will be back before turning 21.

                            regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                            The girl was released to Ruff after numerous attempts to reach her parents failed, the police report said. Swicord said his department still has not heard from the girl's mother or father. But the parents have spoken to reporters. This should give you an idea as to the type of home life she has.

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                            • T TorstenH

                              You don't have kids I assume. The only 'force' one needs to get a hold on those 6yo is the voice and authority.

                              regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                              TorstenH. wrote:

                              You don't have kids I assume.
                               
                              The only 'force' one needs to get a hold on those 6yo is the voice and authority.

                              My presumption is that you are talking about children you know and without consideration for the vast numbers of which you have never had to deal with.

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                              • T TorstenH

                                You don't have kids I assume. The only 'force' one needs to get a hold on those 6yo is the voice and authority.

                                regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                                No, not exactly. My 'children' used to call me sarge and on a few occasions I got to see what extreme anger or fear can do. Restraining them is not intended as punishment. It's to protect them from doing something they would regret when their brains start working again. That exceptional state of mind does not last long, probably because they have gotten a family size dose of adrenaline which wears off very quickly. But during that time they feel little pain and the body mobilizes all reserves. Even a child will show surprising strength in such a situation. Did you ever see a dumb movie in which somebody steps in front of a panicked crowd, commands them to stop and gets himself run over? That's exactly what your voice and authority will get you then. Scared people will just ignore you or the furious ones will get a target. This is the most extreme reaction reserved for situations of mortal danger, percieved or real. I really hope that you don't have experienced that with your children.

                                At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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