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  • W wizardzz

    That's actually quite funny.

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    Lost User
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    Thank you. I thought so too :)

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    • W wizardzz

      Damn, that's not making me want one any less! I have heard you can shoot the thing one handed like a pistol (as proof of low recoil/not recommended/ etc). What part of the country do you shoot idpa in?

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      RJOberg
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      Used to compete in Central WI but then I moved to Madison. Not as many places to go shooting here without more drive time involved.

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      • K Kevin Marois

        Absolutly wrong. The AK is mostly steel. Steel = rust. The M16 is moslty composite & alluminum. The AK has more parts. That's why the AK is harder to dissasemble for cleaning and hard to keep clean overall than the M16.

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        I have cleaned both the M16 and the AK 47, and I disagree with you.

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        • W wizardzz

          Ever held one? They have one at my gun shop, but I've yet to fire it. Someday... someday...

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Yes, when I did the army service. Our lieutenant held the opinion that one should know the weapons of the enemy. The M16 was included for fun. Answered the wromg message. :doh: No I haven't, but I would like to.

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          • J Jorgen Andersson

            I have cleaned both the M16 and the AK 47, and I disagree with you.

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            Kevin Marois
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            Ok

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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            • R RJOberg

              The reliability of the modern m16 is much better than it was in the original form. However, I do agree with you that the AK-47 is more rugged, easier to clean and upkeep, plus you can pretty much do anything to them and they keep firing. The AK-47 would be my choice as well. Plus if you get a high quality AK variant, they are just as accurate.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              The ones I've used were old. And the M16 was simply not convincing. While the AK47 was crude but still did its job.

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              • T TorstenH

                true, the 5.56 ammo is pretty handsome. But also doesn't affect as much damage as the good old 7.62.

                regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                realJSOP
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                You don't have to kill them - just make them scream out in pain... They'll either drop, run, or die.

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                • V Vasily Tserekh

                  which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

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                  realJSOP
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                  That's a tough call. If you want it to go bang every time (for while, anyway), I'd go AK. That rifle will shoot while fully submerged in mud. If you want better single-shot accuracy, and the chore of keeping it clean enough to go bang every time, I'd go M16.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                    which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

                    The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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                    Vitaly Tomilov
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                    are you planning to start one?

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                    • R Rage

                      The FAMAS[^].

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                      TheRealRarius
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                      Because FAMAS am bestest gun!

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        First, the ammo for both is not the same. An AK is 7.62x39 and an M16 is 5.56, which is a smaller round. The AK is an assult weapon designed for close in combat and is a piece of crap. It requires constant maintenance if you don't want a to lug around an 11.5 pound hunk of rust. It does however have more stopping power than the M16. It is can be fired semi or full auto. Although the M16A2 is characterized as an "assult rifle", it was really designed for longer engagements and is mostly made of composite materials so it has better resiliency to weather. It is lighter than the AK at 7.8 pounds and fires semi-auto or 3 round burst. This design was supposed to help in accuracy as it elimiates the "spray & pray" factor. See this[^] for a decent comparison.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        realJSOP
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                        Kevin Marois wrote:

                        First, the ammo for both is not the same. An AK is 7.62x39 and an M16 is 5.56, which is a smaller round.

                        BUT, the AR can be chambered for that cartridge by simply changing the upper. The mags are even interchangeable. I'd rather have the 5.56 anyway (mostly because I have 6000 rounds of it already, along with a little more than 3500 rounds of .45ACP)...

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          First, the ammo for both is not the same. An AK is 7.62x39 and an M16 is 5.56, which is a smaller round.

                          BUT, the AR can be chambered for that cartridge by simply changing the upper. The mags are even interchangeable. I'd rather have the 5.56 anyway (mostly because I have 6000 rounds of it already, along with a little more than 3500 rounds of .45ACP)...

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          Agreed, and I still think the AK is a piece of crap. I'll take one of these[^] though

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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