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Will Visual Studio Work on Surface?

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  • A AspDotNetDev

    I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    AspDotNetDev wrote:

    I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it.

    It should work on the Surface Pro. The pure RT version won't run the desktop.

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      lewax00
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      Well if you get an Android tablet you could develop Android apps on it with AIDE[^]. But the Pro version of Surface should be able to run Visual Studio (whether or not it can run it effectively is yet to be seen).

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        AspDotNetDev wrote:

        I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it.

        It should work on the Surface Pro. The pure RT version won't run the desktop.

        *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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        Vitaly Tomilov
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        Nah, it should work either way, especially VS 11, which MS is trying to make as widely usable as possible, that's why they now have VS 11 Express have most features of the Pro edition. CORRECTION: VS 11 will work on Surface Pro, but not likely on RT (no plans yet anyway). Sorry for the wrong post earlier.

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        • V Vitaly Tomilov

          Nah, it should work either way, especially VS 11, which MS is trying to make as widely usable as possible, that's why they now have VS 11 Express have most features of the Pro edition. CORRECTION: VS 11 will work on Surface Pro, but not likely on RT (no plans yet anyway). Sorry for the wrong post earlier.

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          Steve Maier
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          What makes you say that VS 11 that is compiled for x86 chips will work on the ARM chip that WinRT has?

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            Well if you get an Android tablet you could develop Android apps on it with AIDE[^]. But the Pro version of Surface should be able to run Visual Studio (whether or not it can run it effectively is yet to be seen).

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            AspDotNetDev
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            Not sure I'd want to develop for Android. I have a Nook Color, and the poor quality has left a bad taste in my mouth (you can search to see some posts I made about issues I've had with my Nook).

            lewax00 wrote:

            whether or not it can run it effectively is yet to be seen

            Yeah, the single tiny screen might be a bit limiting, and I'm not sure it will have the type of resources (e.g., RAM) that VS requires. Though it would probably be convenient for testing the native features of the Surface (touch and such), and might actually work well for compiles (assuming the Surface has an SSD that is reasonably fast).

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            • S Steve Maier

              What makes you say that VS 11 that is compiled for x86 chips will work on the ARM chip that WinRT has?

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              Vitaly Tomilov
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              Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)

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              • S Steve Maier

                What makes you say that VS 11 that is compiled for x86 chips will work on the ARM chip that WinRT has?

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                lewax00
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                The Surface Pro has an x86, hence the expectation it would work ;P

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                • V Vitaly Tomilov

                  Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)

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                  Steve Maier
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                  You answered Pete's reply saying it should work either way when he said it would not work on the RT machines. To me, you saying it will work either way meant that it should work for both RT and Pro.

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                  • V Vitaly Tomilov

                    Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    I wasn't referring to any version, but you did say "either way". Were you referring to something other than the two versions of surface (pro/RT)?

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                    • S Steve Maier

                      You answered Pete's reply saying it should work either way when he said it would not work on the RT machines. To me, you saying it will work either way meant that it should work for both RT and Pro.

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                      Vitaly Tomilov
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                      Ah, true, apologies then.

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

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                        Steve Maier
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                        iPads do have some Lua compilers available in the store now. It took alot of time tho to get them there. SDKs like the Corona SDK can turn your Lua code into an iPhone/iPad/android app too. It's just not as smooth as using a single think like with VS.

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                        • V Vitaly Tomilov

                          Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          Vitaly Tomilov wrote:

                          which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT

                          I don't share your optimism here. The future will tell how many months there will be between both. My bet is we won't see actual sales of Surface Pro this year. :|

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                            Vitaly Tomilov wrote:

                            which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT

                            I don't share your optimism here. The future will tell how many months there will be between both. My bet is we won't see actual sales of Surface Pro this year. :|

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                            Vitaly Tomilov
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                            I just double-checked with Microsoft, they promise Pro edition on the market 90 days after RT is.

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                            • A AspDotNetDev

                              I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

                              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                              Lost User
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                              Sure, it'll work on the surface; but underneath - uh oh!

                              speaking as ...

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                              • V Vitaly Tomilov

                                I just double-checked with Microsoft, they promise Pro edition on the market 90 days after RT is.

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                                Luc Pattyn
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                                :thumbsup:

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                                • V Vitaly Tomilov

                                  Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  Just to clarify - my answer stated the Surface Pro and not Windows Pro, and the Surface Pro will not start shipping until 90 days after the Surface. This was all announced last week.

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                    And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it.

                                    Even if I could develop software on it, I would never have developed software on iPad. To develop software I prefer faster machines (laptops or desktops) with good CPU/memory/screen resolution. A tablet is not for that purpose at all. Same thing go for surface (Pro). To develop software on it I would prefer it connected to dual monitors (which I am not sure it can do).

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      77465
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                                      Looking at the specs, yes on Pro, provided a monitor is connected. Surface is not upgradeable or reparable like any other tablet, but if the battery is easy to replace and it has enough pressure levels so that it is good for drawing, I will consider it as my next main PC.

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                                      • A AspDotNetDev

                                        I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?

                                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        I've got VS2008 running on a netbook for when I'm on support in remote areas and don't want the weight of a full size laptop (camping etc.) and it's fine - just damn slow. I imagine VS on the x86 version of the Surface will be far, far better than that as it's based on an ultrabook spec rather than a netbook spec. I'm certainly going to try it - though not necessarily with the MS device specifically.

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                                        • L lewax00

                                          Well if you get an Android tablet you could develop Android apps on it with AIDE[^]. But the Pro version of Surface should be able to run Visual Studio (whether or not it can run it effectively is yet to be seen).

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                                          Nelviticus
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                                          Cool, thanks for the link to AIDE. I hadn't heard of that.

                                          Regards Nelviticus

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