Will Visual Studio Work on Surface?
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What makes you say that VS 11 that is compiled for x86 chips will work on the ARM chip that WinRT has?
Steve Maier
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Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)
You answered Pete's reply saying it should work either way when he said it would not work on the RT machines. To me, you saying it will work either way meant that it should work for both RT and Pro.
Steve Maier
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Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)
I wasn't referring to any version, but you did say "either way". Were you referring to something other than the two versions of surface (pro/RT)?
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You answered Pete's reply saying it should work either way when he said it would not work on the RT machines. To me, you saying it will work either way meant that it should work for both RT and Pro.
Steve Maier
Ah, true, apologies then.
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
iPads do have some Lua compilers available in the store now. It took alot of time tho to get them there. SDKs like the Corona SDK can turn your Lua code into an iPhone/iPad/android app too. It's just not as smooth as using a single think like with VS.
Steve Maier
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Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)
Vitaly Tomilov wrote:
which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT
I don't share your optimism here. The future will tell how many months there will be between both. My bet is we won't see actual sales of Surface Pro this year. :|
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Vitaly Tomilov wrote:
which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT
I don't share your optimism here. The future will tell how many months there will be between both. My bet is we won't see actual sales of Surface Pro this year. :|
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I just double-checked with Microsoft, they promise Pro edition on the market 90 days after RT is.
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
Sure, it'll work on the surface; but underneath - uh oh!
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I just double-checked with Microsoft, they promise Pro edition on the market 90 days after RT is.
:thumbsup:
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Similar question to you - what makes you say the author referred to WinRT version of the surface? He didn't, he just said "Microsoft Surface", which will ship with Win 8 Pro at the same time as RT ;)
Just to clarify - my answer stated the Surface Pro and not Windows Pro, and the Surface Pro will not start shipping until 90 days after the Surface. This was all announced last week.
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
AspDotNetDev wrote:
And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it.
Even if I could develop software on it, I would never have developed software on iPad. To develop software I prefer faster machines (laptops or desktops) with good CPU/memory/screen resolution. A tablet is not for that purpose at all. Same thing go for surface (Pro). To develop software on it I would prefer it connected to dual monitors (which I am not sure it can do).
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
Looking at the specs, yes on Pro, provided a monitor is connected. Surface is not upgradeable or reparable like any other tablet, but if the battery is easy to replace and it has enough pressure levels so that it is good for drawing, I will consider it as my next main PC.
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
I've got VS2008 running on a netbook for when I'm on support in remote areas and don't want the weight of a full size laptop (camping etc.) and it's fine - just damn slow. I imagine VS on the x86 version of the Surface will be far, far better than that as it's based on an ultrabook spec rather than a netbook spec. I'm certainly going to try it - though not necessarily with the MS device specifically.
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
Windows 8 Pro version will be able to run legacy Windows applications, ie. every Windows app released to date, including desktop, Metro apps, and anything else. So this should clear any doubt about running VS on surface. You can connect Surface to the monitor and you are all set to develop software using surface even at office. - Kishore http://kishore1021.wordpress.com/[^]
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I've got VS2008 running on a netbook for when I'm on support in remote areas and don't want the weight of a full size laptop (camping etc.) and it's fine - just damn slow. I imagine VS on the x86 version of the Surface will be far, far better than that as it's based on an ultrabook spec rather than a netbook spec. I'm certainly going to try it - though not necessarily with the MS device specifically.
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
I'm certainly going to try it - though not necessarily with the MS device specifically.
The MS Surface pro comes closest to being a suitable replacement for my current netbook of any of the w8 machines I've seen so far. I can (akwardly) pocket a 10" laptop; but not an 11.6" model; and find being able to do so useful enough at times to be a worthwhile feature. Needing a real OS rules out all the arm based fondle slabs. The only major problem I have with the MS model is that at 1080p, I'll have to run the desktop at a non-native resolution (720p). A minor issue is that I'd really prefer >10h of runtime to the 8(?) I've seen quoted for the surface. I could probably manage with 8, but battery decay would become a problem sooner than I'd like.
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Not sure I'd want to develop for Android. I have a Nook Color, and the poor quality has left a bad taste in my mouth (you can search to see some posts I made about issues I've had with my Nook).
lewax00 wrote:
whether or not it can run it effectively is yet to be seen
Yeah, the single tiny screen might be a bit limiting, and I'm not sure it will have the type of resources (e.g., RAM) that VS requires. Though it would probably be convenient for testing the native features of the Surface (touch and such), and might actually work well for compiles (assuming the Surface has an SSD that is reasonably fast).
Just out of curiosity did you ever consider rooting[^] your Nook. I am running CyanogenMod 7 and I love it. I can read my books, play android games, read email, and get on the internet. It was a bit of a pain rooting my Nook Color, but is Cyanogem Mod 7 OS is significantly better than the B&N. Just a thought.
ARon
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
The "Surface Pro" will probably run it but you'll want to attach an external monitor. A 10" screen isn't particularly good for development. Naah ... won't buy one myself. I'll keep my 15.6" notebook for development, that or I'll do it on the 22" screen on my XPS. If I want to read a book I'll pick up my iPad and leave the laptop on the desk. I've bought enough hardware for awhile, myself! ;-)
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Sure, it'll work on the surface; but underneath - uh oh!
:laugh:
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I might consider buying a Surface tablet if Visual Studio will work on it. And I may have bought an iPad if I could develop software on it. Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet? What do you think you'd use it for?
AspDotNetDev wrote:
Are any of you thinking of getting a Surface tablet?
Yes.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
What do you think you'd use it for?
I'd use it as a glorified music player. ;P
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