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  • D Dr Walt Fair PE

    Not sure what your height might be, but I got up to about 95 kg after I quit smoking. I started snacking on nothing but beef jerky and have been stable at 85 kg for the past several years. I'd like to drop a few kg more, but it's not a big deal. I haven't drank soft drinks for over 30 years - never really liked the taste of them. I drink fruit juices, coffee or tea without sugar, fruit juices or just plain water. When I get hungry for a snack, I slowly chew on some sunflower seeds.

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    Christian Graus
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    I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

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      I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

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      _Damian S_
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      Midget!! ;P

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      • C Christian Graus

        I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Dr Walt Fair PE
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        Maybe some juices have more, but my wife makes natural fruit juices from oranges, mangos, grapes, apples, peaches, cherries, papayas, etc. - whatever is in season. I lived in South America too long to think about quitting my fruit juice habits! If I die from drinking fruit juices rather than soft drinks, so be it. ;P Oh, BTW, I'm 6 ft even.

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          Maybe some juices have more, but my wife makes natural fruit juices from oranges, mangos, grapes, apples, peaches, cherries, papayas, etc. - whatever is in season. I lived in South America too long to think about quitting my fruit juice habits! If I die from drinking fruit juices rather than soft drinks, so be it. ;P Oh, BTW, I'm 6 ft even.

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          Christian Graus
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          Yeah, the fructose is what's bad, and it gets it's name from being in fruit. Fruit juice without added sugar is still probably more sugar than soft drink. Your call :-)

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Midget!! ;P

            Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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            ROTFL !! I have a midget story to tell, actually....

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              ROTFL !! I have a midget story to tell, actually....

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              _Damian S_
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              Well, don't hold back!!

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                Well, don't hold back!!

                Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                Christian Graus
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                We were walking down the street. I saw a guy with no arms. Calvin waves ( he's not sure how to act if someone is different ). So, Donna tells him not to do that. I said 'it's rude, if he can't wave back'. Turns out there was a midget walking behind this guy and they'd both seen him and not the guy with no hands, so I had a hard time explaining myself...

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                  We were walking down the street. I saw a guy with no arms. Calvin waves ( he's not sure how to act if someone is different ). So, Donna tells him not to do that. I said 'it's rude, if he can't wave back'. Turns out there was a midget walking behind this guy and they'd both seen him and not the guy with no hands, so I had a hard time explaining myself...

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  _Damian S_
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                  ROFL... that's hilarious... and could only possibly happen to YOU!!

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                    ROFL... that's hilarious... and could only possibly happen to YOU!!

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                    Christian Graus
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                    *grin* yes, agreed on both fronts.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Slacker007
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                      Nice to see you in the Lounge. I did not read the books but I am living with diabetes, and I can tell you that sugar is the devil. I have lost 35 pounds with 20 left all because I cut out sugar and reduced portion size.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Sugar is what you need to add, to make no fat food edible. The dogma worldwide is that fat makes you fat. I've been reading all about the origins of the idea, but it's wrong.

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                        Pascal Ganaye
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                        > The dogma worldwide To me it is not the case in France. What I used to hear was 'Calories make you fat'. Calories are in both 'glucids and lipids'

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                          So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Congratulations Christian, it must feel great to get the weight off. Dr. Robert Lustig, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco put together this video talking about the health issues related to Fructose, and in particular the effects of high fructose corn syrup found in just about everything sweetened these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[^] It's a big eye opener. For me, I've basically found the only way I can control my weight is to avoid refined carbohydrates, and that includes sugar. Over the last 6 months I'm down 36lbs and back to a healthy size and weight which feels fantastic. I agree with you about Sugar, particularly in North America they literally put sweeteners in everything and the results are pretty evident. I don't think XBox is causing the obesity problem, I think Coke is. D

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                          • D David Cunningham

                            Congratulations Christian, it must feel great to get the weight off. Dr. Robert Lustig, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco put together this video talking about the health issues related to Fructose, and in particular the effects of high fructose corn syrup found in just about everything sweetened these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[^] It's a big eye opener. For me, I've basically found the only way I can control my weight is to avoid refined carbohydrates, and that includes sugar. Over the last 6 months I'm down 36lbs and back to a healthy size and weight which feels fantastic. I agree with you about Sugar, particularly in North America they literally put sweeteners in everything and the results are pretty evident. I don't think XBox is causing the obesity problem, I think Coke is. D

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

                            Regards, Nish


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                              I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

                              Regards, Nish


                              My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              Bassam Abdul Baki
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                              My theory is that spicey counters sweet to help you lose weight. I need to get back on the spice train.

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                                So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Crap! The only cereal I like is Frosted Flakes. They're grrrreat!

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                                • _ _Damian S_

                                  jeron1 wrote:

                                  guess what I'm getting after work?

                                  Laid?

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                                  Laid AND caramel sauce! woohoo!

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Andy Brummer
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                                    I eat a "paleo" diet and cutting out sugar is a big part of it. Vegetables and fruits are the biggest source of carbohydrates in my diet.

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                                    • D David Cunningham

                                      Congratulations Christian, it must feel great to get the weight off. Dr. Robert Lustig, a professor at the University of California at San Francisco put together this video talking about the health issues related to Fructose, and in particular the effects of high fructose corn syrup found in just about everything sweetened these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[^] It's a big eye opener. For me, I've basically found the only way I can control my weight is to avoid refined carbohydrates, and that includes sugar. Over the last 6 months I'm down 36lbs and back to a healthy size and weight which feels fantastic. I agree with you about Sugar, particularly in North America they literally put sweeteners in everything and the results are pretty evident. I don't think XBox is causing the obesity problem, I think Coke is. D

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Hi David. Yes, it feels great, especially because there's no work involved. I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I don't count calories or starve, and the weight stays off. Yes, I'd seen that video, too. It's interesting, there's a lot of different thoughts on HFCS. The book I read says that he thinks it's no worse than sugar, they are both effective sources of fructose ( which is the issue ). I am not sure he's right, I notice the impact on how I feel after a few days in the US, and my last trip, where I was fructose free and so didn't drink soft drinks or eat candy, it was not as pronounced. Congratulations - that's a big result. Are you within your recommended BMI range now ? I am not, which makes me think the ranges are a bit of a farce. I am literally bony, I don't have any scope to lose more weight, and plenty to gain it by putting on muscle, but I am just above the recommended BMI range, which my doctor was pushing on me every visit. I am not sure what he'll say now that the recommended values are not off in the distance somewhere :-) Yes, I think soft drinks are the biggest one. The serving sizes in the US are obscene, and people will try for a low calorie food option, but not consider how much sugar they are drinking. Even fruit juice has tons of sugar, and what we drink typically accounts for at least 30% of our sugar intake. I just drink sparkling water now, sweetened drinks taste strange to me now that I'm not addicted to sugar. As the book I read says, did we as a species lose our will power in the past 50 years, or has something changed in our dietary environment that has caused this weight gain ? It's worth noting, refrigeration is not that old, it's not like people had juice in the fridge 100 years ago.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        I first heard of all this no-sugar stuff from Smitha, who said she got it from you (apparently it was the rage in CodeProject a few months ago). About the same time, CG visits me and tells me he is on the no-sugar diet too. Of course I am happy to hear all this while continuing to consume huge quantities of sugar because of my super-human metabolism. :-D

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Apart from that amazing ice cream place you took me to, I didn't think there was that much evidence of sugar in your diets :-)

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                                        • A Andy Brummer

                                          I eat a "paleo" diet and cutting out sugar is a big part of it. Vegetables and fruits are the biggest source of carbohydrates in my diet.

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Yeah, I've heard of this paleo diet. I'm sure it has merit, but, the people I know, also try to be 'in touch with their bodys rhythms', which I assume means going to bed when the sun goes down, which must be hard work in the winter, unless your marriage is in excellent shape....

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