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  • C Christian Graus

    So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    UNCRushFan
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    I gave up all forms of sugar and refined carbs on 5/1/2012. Since that time, with only mild exercise, I've dropped a total of 23 lbs. There are other benefits I've seen too: my skin isn't dry anymore, I don't get headaches (except before the monthly build), I don't get indigestion, and I sleep like a baby. Truly amazing stuff...I doubt I will go back to my old ways. What got me on this was reading Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. Or, check out his book Why We Get Fat & What To Do About It (basically GC, BC without all the case studies). Amazing stuff. He wrote a controversial article in the NY Times back in 2002 called "What If It's All Been A Big Fat Lie?" in which he showed that fat doesn't necessarily make us that way. Anyone seen/heard about/read anything by Mr. Taubes? I highly recommend at least listening to one of his speeches.

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      I gave up all forms of sugar and refined carbs on 5/1/2012. Since that time, with only mild exercise, I've dropped a total of 23 lbs. There are other benefits I've seen too: my skin isn't dry anymore, I don't get headaches (except before the monthly build), I don't get indigestion, and I sleep like a baby. Truly amazing stuff...I doubt I will go back to my old ways. What got me on this was reading Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. Or, check out his book Why We Get Fat & What To Do About It (basically GC, BC without all the case studies). Amazing stuff. He wrote a controversial article in the NY Times back in 2002 called "What If It's All Been A Big Fat Lie?" in which he showed that fat doesn't necessarily make us that way. Anyone seen/heard about/read anything by Mr. Taubes? I highly recommend at least listening to one of his speeches.

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      Big fat lies is the name of the first book I read, too :-) I've not heard of him, no, I will check it out.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • C Christian Graus

        Most cereal contains sugar, so does most bread and salad dressing. What is Caesin ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        "Most cereal contains sugar, so does most bread and salad dressing." > Yes but it works so far - it's whether you eat above/below your daily intake which decides whether you gain/lose fat. Apparently I am eating below. Also, I skip dressing when i order from Subway. "What's caesin" > Muscle building protein - if you don't want to eat ten pork chops per day and if you still want to gain lean muscle mass, then Caesin = lean protein @ ~120 calories (25g protein) per scope. Taste awful however.

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          "Most cereal contains sugar, so does most bread and salad dressing." > Yes but it works so far - it's whether you eat above/below your daily intake which decides whether you gain/lose fat. Apparently I am eating below. Also, I skip dressing when i order from Subway. "What's caesin" > Muscle building protein - if you don't want to eat ten pork chops per day and if you still want to gain lean muscle mass, then Caesin = lean protein @ ~120 calories (25g protein) per scope. Taste awful however.

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          Christian Graus
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          Yes, it will work. As you say, any diet will, so long as you eat less than you use. The point of not eating sugar is that instead of not eating by force of will, you just don't want to.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Yes, it will work. As you say, any diet will, so long as you eat less than you use. The point of not eating sugar is that instead of not eating by force of will, you just don't want to.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            yes that's why some days I cut out the cereal anyway, following this diet what's occupying my mind most days is the lamb kebab street vendor downstairs ... (something only reserved for the weekend's)

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              yes that's why some days I cut out the cereal anyway, following this diet what's occupying my mind most days is the lamb kebab street vendor downstairs ... (something only reserved for the weekend's)

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              Christian Graus
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              That sounds nice. I'd just eat it if I wanted, I don't count calories at all, I just eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Doesn't sound earthshattering, but eating no sugar, ever, mean that my appetite control works.

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                That sounds nice. I'd just eat it if I wanted, I don't count calories at all, I just eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Doesn't sound earthshattering, but eating no sugar, ever, mean that my appetite control works.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                devvvy
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                yes just cut out the sugar which doesn't contribute anything good food does put you in a good mood no kidding

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                  yes just cut out the sugar which doesn't contribute anything good food does put you in a good mood no kidding

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                  Exactly.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Not sure what your height might be, but I got up to about 95 kg after I quit smoking. I started snacking on nothing but beef jerky and have been stable at 85 kg for the past several years. I'd like to drop a few kg more, but it's not a big deal. I haven't drank soft drinks for over 30 years - never really liked the taste of them. I drink fruit juices, coffee or tea without sugar, fruit juices or just plain water. When I get hungry for a snack, I slowly chew on some sunflower seeds.

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                      Not sure what your height might be, but I got up to about 95 kg after I quit smoking. I started snacking on nothing but beef jerky and have been stable at 85 kg for the past several years. I'd like to drop a few kg more, but it's not a big deal. I haven't drank soft drinks for over 30 years - never really liked the taste of them. I drink fruit juices, coffee or tea without sugar, fruit juices or just plain water. When I get hungry for a snack, I slowly chew on some sunflower seeds.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

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                        I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

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                        _Damian S_
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                        Midget!! ;P

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                          I am 6 2. Fruit juice has more sugar in it than a lot of soft drinks. I just drink water or milk :-)

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                          Dr Walt Fair PE
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                          Maybe some juices have more, but my wife makes natural fruit juices from oranges, mangos, grapes, apples, peaches, cherries, papayas, etc. - whatever is in season. I lived in South America too long to think about quitting my fruit juice habits! If I die from drinking fruit juices rather than soft drinks, so be it. ;P Oh, BTW, I'm 6 ft even.

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                            Maybe some juices have more, but my wife makes natural fruit juices from oranges, mangos, grapes, apples, peaches, cherries, papayas, etc. - whatever is in season. I lived in South America too long to think about quitting my fruit juice habits! If I die from drinking fruit juices rather than soft drinks, so be it. ;P Oh, BTW, I'm 6 ft even.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Yeah, the fructose is what's bad, and it gets it's name from being in fruit. Fruit juice without added sugar is still probably more sugar than soft drink. Your call :-)

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Midget!! ;P

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                              Christian Graus
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                              ROTFL !! I have a midget story to tell, actually....

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                                ROTFL !! I have a midget story to tell, actually....

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                                _Damian S_
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                                Well, don't hold back!!

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                                  Well, don't hold back!!

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  We were walking down the street. I saw a guy with no arms. Calvin waves ( he's not sure how to act if someone is different ). So, Donna tells him not to do that. I said 'it's rude, if he can't wave back'. Turns out there was a midget walking behind this guy and they'd both seen him and not the guy with no hands, so I had a hard time explaining myself...

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                                    We were walking down the street. I saw a guy with no arms. Calvin waves ( he's not sure how to act if someone is different ). So, Donna tells him not to do that. I said 'it's rude, if he can't wave back'. Turns out there was a midget walking behind this guy and they'd both seen him and not the guy with no hands, so I had a hard time explaining myself...

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                                    _Damian S_
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                                    ROFL... that's hilarious... and could only possibly happen to YOU!!

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                                      ROFL... that's hilarious... and could only possibly happen to YOU!!

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      *grin* yes, agreed on both fronts.

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Nice to see you in the Lounge. I did not read the books but I am living with diabetes, and I can tell you that sugar is the devil. I have lost 35 pounds with 20 left all because I cut out sugar and reduced portion size.

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                                          Sugar is what you need to add, to make no fat food edible. The dogma worldwide is that fat makes you fat. I've been reading all about the origins of the idea, but it's wrong.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          > The dogma worldwide To me it is not the case in France. What I used to hear was 'Calories make you fat'. Calories are in both 'glucids and lipids'

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