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When is a sport not a sport?

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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    Wjousts
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    If you can't objectively declare a winner, then it's not a sport. So anything where you score points for "artistic merit" isn't a sport.

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      Motorsports are also not sports.

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      Wjousts
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      Yes they are. You can objectively declare a winner and a (bunch of) losers. That makes it more of a sport than gymnastics.

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        If you can't objectively declare a winner, then it's not a sport. So anything where you score points for "artistic merit" isn't a sport.

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        Ski jumping vs chess then? ;)

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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Motorsports are also not sports.

          :doh:

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            If you can't objectively declare a winner, then it's not a sport. So anything where you score points for "artistic merit" isn't a sport.

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            I think they need a new kind of marathon. The event starts on the first day of the Olympics, and ends on the last day. The person that runs the farthest the fastest wins the gold. The runners are allowed to stop and rest for as long as they want, and as frequently as they want. If they want shelter when they sleep, they have to have been running with it (a backpack with a tent in it, for example). To make it more interesting, they also have to pack their own water/food, and can only replenish food/water every two days, and only after they've consumed all previous food/water. Alternatively, they could bring a non-firearm weapon with which to hunt for their food during the event, but they must still bring their own water. Anyone that dies within three days of the completion of the event forfeits their medal (if they won one).

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              Ski jumping vs chess then? ;)

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              Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                I think they need a new kind of marathon. The event starts on the first day of the Olympics, and ends on the last day. The person that runs the farthest the fastest wins the gold. The runners are allowed to stop and rest for as long as they want, and as frequently as they want. If they want shelter when they sleep, they have to have been running with it (a backpack with a tent in it, for example). To make it more interesting, they also have to pack their own water/food, and can only replenish food/water every two days, and only after they've consumed all previous food/water. Alternatively, they could bring a non-firearm weapon with which to hunt for their food during the event, but they must still bring their own water. Anyone that dies within three days of the completion of the event forfeits their medal (if they won one).

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Andrei Straut
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                Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I think they need a new kind of marathon. The event starts on the first day of the Olympics, and ends on the last day. The person that runs the farthest the fastest wins the gold. The runners are allowed to stop and rest for as long as they want, and as frequently as they want. If they want shelter when they sleep, they have to have been running with it (a backpack with a tent in it, for example). To make it more interesting, they also have to pack their own water/food, and can only replenish food/water every two days, and only after they've consumed all previous food/water. Alternatively, they could bring a non-firearm weapon with which to hunt for their food during the event, but they must still bring their own water. Anyone that dies within three days of the completion of the event forfeits their medal (if they won one).

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  Andy Brummer
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                  So kind of an ultra toughtest mudder then?

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                    Kschuler
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                    When it is golf. :-D

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                      When it is golf. :-D

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                        Motorsports are also not sports.

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                        Lost User
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                        Try fighting a NASCAR around a track for 500 miles / 3 hours in the scorching heat or try finessing an F1 car around a road course. I think you'd change your mind.

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                        • A Andrei Straut

                          Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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                          It's actually called "survival".

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            Kenneth Haugland
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                            Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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                              Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                              I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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                                Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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                                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                Soccer perhaps?

                                How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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                                  I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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                                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                                  No, I got it.

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                    Quote:

                                    When is a sport not a sport?

                                    If there is no blood.

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                                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                                      Soccer perhaps?

                                      How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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                                      Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                                      • A Andrei Straut

                                        Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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                                        lewax00
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                                        Andrei Straut wrote:

                                        Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

                                        I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...

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                                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                                          Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                                          Depends who I'm dining with ;P

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