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When is a sport not a sport?

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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    Kschuler
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    When it is golf. :-D

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      When it is golf. :-D

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        Motorsports are also not sports.

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        Lost User
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        Try fighting a NASCAR around a track for 500 miles / 3 hours in the scorching heat or try finessing an F1 car around a road course. I think you'd change your mind.

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        • A Andrei Straut

          Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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          It's actually called "survival".

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            Kenneth Haugland
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            Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              Kschuler
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              I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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                Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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                lewax00
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                Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                Soccer perhaps?

                How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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                  I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  No, I got it.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                    Quote:

                    When is a sport not a sport?

                    If there is no blood.

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                      Soccer perhaps?

                      How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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                      Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                      • A Andrei Straut

                        Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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                        Andrei Straut wrote:

                        Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

                        I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...

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                        • K Kenneth Haugland

                          Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                          lewax00
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                          Depends who I'm dining with ;P

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                          • L Lost User

                            A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.

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                            harold aptroot wrote:

                            A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.

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                            • L lewax00

                              Andrei Straut wrote:

                              Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

                              I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...

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                              Andrei Straut
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                              It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind

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                              • K Kenneth Haugland

                                Ski jumping vs chess then? ;)

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                                Wjousts
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                                As JSOP said, Ski jumping can (and should) be judged on distance (objective) and whether you land without falling on your face (again objective). If you want to give points for style, then it ain't a sport. As for chess, the question was "When is a sport not a sport?" not "when is not a sport a sport?". That there are non-sports that don't violate my rule for excluding pseudo-sports is neither here nor there. I never claimed that my single rule was comprehensive.

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                                  Quote:

                                  When is a sport not a sport?

                                  If there is no blood.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                                  Also valid.

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                    I'd watch that! The only downside is that probably 99.998% of the time they'd probably miss each other completely. But that 1 in 10,000 times they actually connect - pure awesome! :cool: Surely somebody must have a YouTube video of this?

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                                      A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      It is also not an imp, rim, eve, man, pea, ...

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      • A Andrei Straut

                                        It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind

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                                        lewax00
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                                        I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race), though apparently the dates I was thinking of were only around 10,000 years ago...so never mind me, I have no idea what's going on (as usual).

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          the jumper must take a .22

                                          In the same sense as taking an arrow to the knee?

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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