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When is a sport not a sport?

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  • K Kschuler

    When it is golf. :-D

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      Motorsports are also not sports.

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      Lost User
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      Try fighting a NASCAR around a track for 500 miles / 3 hours in the scorching heat or try finessing an F1 car around a road course. I think you'd change your mind.

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      • A Andrei Straut

        Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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        realJSOP
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        It's actually called "survival".

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          Kenneth Haugland
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          Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Kschuler
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            I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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            • K Kenneth Haugland

              Hmm... I see. Is there any sport that you could not enhanced by shooting? :laugh: Soccer perhaps?

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              lewax00
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              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

              Soccer perhaps?

              How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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              • K Kschuler

                I thought the :-D was enough, but maybe I should have used the Joke icon.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                No, I got it.

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  Quote:

                  When is a sport not a sport?

                  If there is no blood.

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                    Soccer perhaps?

                    How could that not benefit from shooting things? :doh:

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                    Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                    • A Andrei Straut

                      Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

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                      lewax00
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                      Andrei Straut wrote:

                      Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

                      I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...

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                      • K Kenneth Haugland

                        Is there any time you consider shooting banned/not permitted? At the dinnertable perhaps :laugh:

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                        lewax00
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                        Depends who I'm dining with ;P

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                        • L Lost User

                          A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.

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                          • L lewax00

                            Andrei Straut wrote:

                            Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution

                            I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...

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                            It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind

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                            • K Kenneth Haugland

                              Ski jumping vs chess then? ;)

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                              Wjousts
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                              As JSOP said, Ski jumping can (and should) be judged on distance (objective) and whether you land without falling on your face (again objective). If you want to give points for style, then it ain't a sport. As for chess, the question was "When is a sport not a sport?" not "when is not a sport a sport?". That there are non-sports that don't violate my rule for excluding pseudo-sports is neither here nor there. I never claimed that my single rule was comprehensive.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                Quote:

                                When is a sport not a sport?

                                If there is no blood.

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                Also valid.

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Wjousts
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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                  I'd watch that! The only downside is that probably 99.998% of the time they'd probably miss each other completely. But that 1 in 10,000 times they actually connect - pure awesome! :cool: Surely somebody must have a YouTube video of this?

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.

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                                    AspDotNetDev
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                                    It is also not an imp, rim, eve, man, pea, ...

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    • A Andrei Straut

                                      It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind

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                                      lewax00
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                                      I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race), though apparently the dates I was thinking of were only around 10,000 years ago...so never mind me, I have no idea what's going on (as usual).

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        the jumper must take a .22

                                        In the same sense as taking an arrow to the knee?

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                                          I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race), though apparently the dates I was thinking of were only around 10,000 years ago...so never mind me, I have no idea what's going on (as usual).

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                                          Andrei Straut
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                                          lewax00 wrote:

                                          I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race)

                                          No, I was actually more referring to the period when the tools described by JSOP's post (tents, non-firearm weapons, and jewelry) came to existence. I'm too sleepy to wiki it now, but I may not be that far off as an estimation (i.e. I may probably be off, but not by orders of magnitude). But yes, humans running around hunting stuff trying to get by everyday has been going on for quite a while (since the first hominids started to appear, a few millions of years ago). [EDIT] It also seems to have stopped lately - take Bush Jr for example, the perfect example that evolution stopped a while ago (I'll go to bed now, before I get stoned to death for this) [/EDIT]

                                          lewax00 wrote:

                                          so never mind me

                                          Don't worry, I wasn't going to ;P

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