When is a sport not a sport?
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A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.
harold aptroot wrote:
A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.
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Andrei Straut wrote:
Well, this was invented some 25,000 years ago. I think it was called evolution
I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude...
It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind
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Ski jumping vs chess then? ;)
As JSOP said, Ski jumping can (and should) be judged on distance (objective) and whether you land without falling on your face (again objective). If you want to give points for style, then it ain't a sport. As for chess, the question was "When is a sport not a sport?" not "when is not a sport a sport?". That there are non-sports that don't violate my rule for excluding pseudo-sports is neither here nor there. I never claimed that my single rule was comprehensive.
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When is a sport not a sport?
If there is no blood.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Also valid.
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Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.
I'd watch that! The only downside is that probably 99.998% of the time they'd probably miss each other completely. But that 1 in 10,000 times they actually connect - pure awesome! :cool: Surely somebody must have a YouTube video of this?
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A peacock mantis shrimp[^] is not a peacock, not a mantis, and not even a shrimp.
It is also not an imp, rim, eve, man, pea, ...
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It was a joke. It was by no means meant to be correct. "25,000" just came to mind
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I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race), though apparently the dates I was thinking of were only around 10,000 years ago...so never mind me, I have no idea what's going on (as usual).
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Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
the jumper must take a .22
In the same sense as taking an arrow to the knee?
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I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race), though apparently the dates I was thinking of were only around 10,000 years ago...so never mind me, I have no idea what's going on (as usual).
lewax00 wrote:
I had just thought you were instead aiming for the beginning of human civilization (i.e. when humans started participating in this race)
No, I was actually more referring to the period when the tools described by JSOP's post (tents, non-firearm weapons, and jewelry) came to existence. I'm too sleepy to wiki it now, but I may not be that far off as an estimation (i.e. I may probably be off, but not by orders of magnitude). But yes, humans running around hunting stuff trying to get by everyday has been going on for quite a while (since the first hominids started to appear, a few millions of years ago). [EDIT] It also seems to have stopped lately - take Bush Jr for example, the perfect example that evolution stopped a while ago (I'll go to bed now, before I get stoned to death for this) [/EDIT]
lewax00 wrote:
so never mind me
Don't worry, I wasn't going to ;P
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As JSOP said, Ski jumping can (and should) be judged on distance (objective) and whether you land without falling on your face (again objective). If you want to give points for style, then it ain't a sport. As for chess, the question was "When is a sport not a sport?" not "when is not a sport a sport?". That there are non-sports that don't violate my rule for excluding pseudo-sports is neither here nor there. I never claimed that my single rule was comprehensive.
Dont get me wrong, I actually like your definition. :) There is just so many "sports" that we should perhaps set several bars: 1. sport 2. sportfully 3. sportylike 4. Fooling around
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Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997How about trying to shoot the 5 juges/melons/whatever while he's in the air :)
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Try fighting a NASCAR around a track for 500 miles / 3 hours in the scorching heat or try finessing an F1 car around a road course. I think you'd change your mind.
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When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.
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You could say any time the cheerleaders are missing, its not a sport :)
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Dont get me wrong, I actually like your definition. :) There is just so many "sports" that we should perhaps set several bars: 1. sport 2. sportfully 3. sportylike 4. Fooling around
Recreational?
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Whoa, there. Now you take it too far. Golf is very definitely a sport since the outcome is purely objective and entirely dependant upon the skill of the individual. And, no, it is not a good walk spoilt.
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When is a sport not a sport?
If there is no blood.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Try fighting a NASCAR around a track for 500 miles / 3 hours in the scorching heat or try finessing an F1 car around a road course. I think you'd change your mind.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Try fighting a NASCAR around a track
I'd like to.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
or try finessing an F1 car
No thanks. If the Hamster can't, I can't. :-D
Mike Mullikin wrote:
I think you'd change your mind.
I wouldn't.
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Recreational?
I personally think that recreational starts at sleeping, but Im open for different arguments :)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
the jumper must take a .22
In the same sense as taking an arrow to the knee?
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When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
