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When is a sport not a sport?

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  • T thrakazog

    For my money sports have defense. Football, Soccer, Basketball, etc. Without defense you just have yourself an activity. NASCAR, Golf, Poker... Just because an activity is hard doesn't make it a sport.

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    Marcus_2
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    thrakazog wrote:

    For my money sports have defense.
     
    Football, Soccer, Basketball, etc.
     
    Without defense you just have yourself an activity.

    You've obviously never been at a racetrack? ;) In racing you have to have defense as well, it's not just about driving a quick lap or knowing how to pass another car. You have to equally good at driving defensively to make it as hard as possible for someone else to overtake you.

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      Ahem... Caber_toss[^]

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      Pete OHanlon
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      How many caber tossers look married to you?

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Ski jumping is good as long as it's completely judged on distance jumped (and whether or not you fall when you land) without regard to "style". Style sports have no place in the Olympics. To make ski jumping more interesting, we could add a target-shooting element, where the jumper must take a .22 down the slope, and after leaving the ramp, he must shoot three targets (one shot each). Alternative version - ski jump jousting (or "ski jousting") - two jumpers ski down opposing ramps equipped with a pike and a shield, and must knock the other out of the air as they pass in mid-flight.

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        How about combining ski jumping with trap shooting? When the shooter shouts "pull", the ski-jumper starts - if he avoids the pellets, he wins, if he doesn't, the shooter wins!

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          I think they need a new kind of marathon. The event starts on the first day of the Olympics, and ends on the last day. The person that runs the farthest the fastest wins the gold. The runners are allowed to stop and rest for as long as they want, and as frequently as they want. If they want shelter when they sleep, they have to have been running with it (a backpack with a tent in it, for example). To make it more interesting, they also have to pack their own water/food, and can only replenish food/water every two days, and only after they've consumed all previous food/water. Alternatively, they could bring a non-firearm weapon with which to hunt for their food during the event, but they must still bring their own water. Anyone that dies within three days of the completion of the event forfeits their medal (if they won one).

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          Roman_wolf
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          You're my new hero :laugh:

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Motorsports are also not sports.

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            Slacker007
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            Anything, that has competition, is a sport. You may not agree, but it is a sport none the less. Picking your nose with your colleagues and seeing who can flick their boogers the farthest, is a sport. Why? Competition baby. :)

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            • T thrakazog

              According to youtube there's a lot of blood involved in skateboarding. Does that qualify?

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              ZurdoDev
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              Probably not. That is self-inflicted bleeding. Not a sport. :)

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                How many caber tossers look married to you?

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                CMullikin
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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                How many caber tossers look married to you?

                They've got long wooden poles, so you tell me....?

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Motorsports are also not sports.

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                  BobJanova
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                  Motor racing is no less of a sport than person racing, racing with bikes or racing with horses.

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                  • R Roman_wolf

                    You're my new hero :laugh:

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                    realJSOP
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                    I have been told that I inspire greatness. :)

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      No. Only one leg gets any exercise. Kinda like how I exercise only one arm... :~

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                      realJSOP
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                      I understand the reference, but I don't think the exercise is the same. :)

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        lewax00 wrote:

                        the beginning of human civilization

                        That sounds like a grand idea. When's it due to start?

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                        Right after humans die out I think.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

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                          wizardzz
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                          Well, the former Soviet countries need something to keep their women in shape.

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                          • M Marcus_2

                            thrakazog wrote:

                            For my money sports have defense.
                             
                            Football, Soccer, Basketball, etc.
                             
                            Without defense you just have yourself an activity.

                            You've obviously never been at a racetrack? ;) In racing you have to have defense as well, it's not just about driving a quick lap or knowing how to pass another car. You have to equally good at driving defensively to make it as hard as possible for someone else to overtake you.

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                            thrakazog
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                            None of that is actual defense. Who is actually trying to prevent the cars from going around the track all together? Get back to me when half the cars are driving round the track in the opposite direction as blockers.

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                            • B BobJanova

                              Motor racing is no less of a sport than person racing, racing with bikes or racing with horses.

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                              thrakazog
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                              Right, none of those is a sport. So none is less than the others. They are all equally not a sport. ;P

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                GenJerDan
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                                When it's a mutation?

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                                • S Slacker007

                                  Anything, that has competition, is a sport. You may not agree, but it is a sport none the less. Picking your nose with your colleagues and seeing who can flick their boogers the farthest, is a sport. Why? Competition baby. :)

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  Slacker007 wrote:

                                  Anything, that has competition, is a sport

                                  I disagree. Sport doesn't require competition. So you agree that chess is a sport?

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                                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                    When it's a bunch of girls prancing around with a ball or a hoop. Best rhythmic gymnastics outfits of the London 2012 Olympics[^] This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                    jschell
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                                    mark merrens wrote:

                                    This is not a sport, at best it's a hobby.

                                    Hmmm...have you tried it? What characteristics must a "sport" have for it to be a sport? How is badminton a sport? Or archery? Or curling? Or race walking?

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                                    • W Wjousts

                                      Yes they are. You can objectively declare a winner and a (bunch of) losers. That makes it more of a sport than gymnastics.

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                                      jschell
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                                      Wjousts wrote:

                                      You can objectively declare a winner and a (bunch of) losers.

                                      So exactly what is the "objective" process that is used to determine the rules under which the participants must race?

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                                      • W Wjousts

                                        If you can't objectively declare a winner, then it's not a sport. So anything where you score points for "artistic merit" isn't a sport.

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                                        jschell
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                                        Wjousts wrote:

                                        If you can't objectively declare a winner, then it's not a sport. So anything where you score points for "artistic merit" isn't a sport.

                                        Nonsense. Every large scale sport is based on rules that have no objectivity. There is no "objective" reason that a football player or a basketball player can't punch and kick an opposing player unconscious but there are certainly rules that disallow it.

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I think they need a new kind of marathon. The event starts on the first day of the Olympics, and ends on the last day. The person that runs the farthest the fastest wins the gold. The runners are allowed to stop and rest for as long as they want, and as frequently as they want. If they want shelter when they sleep, they have to have been running with it (a backpack with a tent in it, for example). To make it more interesting, they also have to pack their own water/food, and can only replenish food/water every two days, and only after they've consumed all previous food/water. Alternatively, they could bring a non-firearm weapon with which to hunt for their food during the event, but they must still bring their own water. Anyone that dies within three days of the completion of the event forfeits their medal (if they won one).

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                          jschell
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          I think they need a new kind of marathon.

                                          That isn't new it just isn't in the Olympics. Ultra marathons have been around for a long time. There are also ultra triathalons with many variations on that. And there is a movement to add the ultra marathon to the Olympics.

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