Resources required for web development
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
sp1786 wrote:
.manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery
I am in no way a developper anymore, but I thought jquery was something for javascript and had no relation whatsoever with .Net.. For the rest, this is so dependent on the application you want to develop that it is difficult to answer in a general manner. First thing is to get specifications, so that you know what the application will have to do and derive the technologies you need ( language, database support, ... ). If you already have problems at this step ( finding out the solution ), try and compare to existing solutions you know of, and estimate how long you will need to implement something similar, then multiply this by two. Once you have the work packages, estimate how many people you will need according to the amount of work and the deadline. Again, the resources you will need highly depends on the application you will have to develop. You mentioned senior programmers: In this very case, well, you are the senior programmer. I don't really see how a constellation could work where you will be using more experienced people to work for you, but still make the decisions. (Unless you are a manager, in which case this is your daily job).
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
sp1786 wrote:
what can i do in such situation
Learn a new technology fast. You may be overwhelmed right now but in a few weeks you will be so far past this phase that you won't even remember being so lost. As some other respondent mentioned get specifications before you start. You need to know what it is you are implementing before you can implement it. Delegate that to your manager. Tell him that you need to concentrate on building a prototype while he collects specifications. The prototype serves two purposes; builds your confidence and provides a working model on which you can build to implement the finished product. Keep it simple and concentrate on function over form. Implement the presentation and connect it to a data source (most likely a database) and display some information based on user input. As for technical resources, you have come to the right place. There are many articles on the internet, and here on CP, that can give you examples of how to do the things you need to accomplish. In general, Google is your friend. Good luck in your endeavorer and welcome to the club. I can't speak for everybody but I know I have been in similar situations and have come away with new found knowledge every time. Keep faith in your ability to learn new things and borrow from the examples you find here and other places on the internet liberally. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, you just have to find out how it is constructed and construct one of your own.
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
sp1786 wrote:
I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2)
2 parsecs? 2 plancks?
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
There are many good ASP tutorials on the web and here in CP. Here is one: [^] Read the tutorial and ask any question that comes to mind. Remember that time used in learning will benefit you when developing your project. Good luck. Your are not alone. :-D
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sp1786 wrote:
what can i do in such situation
Learn a new technology fast. You may be overwhelmed right now but in a few weeks you will be so far past this phase that you won't even remember being so lost. As some other respondent mentioned get specifications before you start. You need to know what it is you are implementing before you can implement it. Delegate that to your manager. Tell him that you need to concentrate on building a prototype while he collects specifications. The prototype serves two purposes; builds your confidence and provides a working model on which you can build to implement the finished product. Keep it simple and concentrate on function over form. Implement the presentation and connect it to a data source (most likely a database) and display some information based on user input. As for technical resources, you have come to the right place. There are many articles on the internet, and here on CP, that can give you examples of how to do the things you need to accomplish. In general, Google is your friend. Good luck in your endeavorer and welcome to the club. I can't speak for everybody but I know I have been in similar situations and have come away with new found knowledge every time. Keep faith in your ability to learn new things and borrow from the examples you find here and other places on the internet liberally. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, you just have to find out how it is constructed and construct one of your own.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI agree with all but the dual purpose of the prototype. In general, most prototypes are just "smoke and mirrors" screens used to get the general "look and feel" and possibly workflow concepts across to the customer. They are mostly built under severe time constraints where any and all shortcuts are taken (hard coded values, minimal configuration - if any, minimal data access - if any, no consideration for architecture or best practices) just to get the screens in front of the stake holders as quickly as possible for approval. I find it best to consider prototype code as "throw away" code and when the actual application implementation begins, start fresh. But, definately agreed - Google is your friend.
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I agree with all but the dual purpose of the prototype. In general, most prototypes are just "smoke and mirrors" screens used to get the general "look and feel" and possibly workflow concepts across to the customer. They are mostly built under severe time constraints where any and all shortcuts are taken (hard coded values, minimal configuration - if any, minimal data access - if any, no consideration for architecture or best practices) just to get the screens in front of the stake holders as quickly as possible for approval. I find it best to consider prototype code as "throw away" code and when the actual application implementation begins, start fresh. But, definately agreed - Google is your friend.
KRucker wrote:
In general, most prototypes are just "smoke and mirrors" screens used to get the general "look and feel" and possibly workflow concepts across to the customer.
Yes that is one type of prototype, but not the only type. The type of prototype you are referring to, "smoke mad mirrors", would focus on form over function. I have worked in R&D for a long time and a lot of prototyping I have done had nothing to do with the customer. The prototypes I do are to prove if new technology was suitable for use in a particular application. That is the type of prototype I was referring to when I said to focus on function over form. The poster needs to learn the proper technology to use for his assignment. That is why I recommended a functional prototype.
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In my company i have a project manger who says i will provide the architecture of the web application I am a developer with just some experience(approx 2) in asp.net... management now asks the manager to make a web application.. what the mangers previous working pattern was... that he use to tell his team what is to be achieved(w.r.t a desktop application) and than it was for the team to see how the following is to achieved and implemented...In case of the desktop application scenario there where experienced developers but NOW for web IT IS just me and the manager... The manger keeps on telling the management he will definately work on this web application and he will proceed with me as a developer alone(..manager is not familiar with latest .net technologies like jquery,mvc etc).. As i have limited asp.net experience I feel need for someone who guides me more that with just WHAT is to be done!!!.. Kindly guide me what are the resources..i need in such a situation..(which type of seniors are required/profiles to be filled and what can i do in such situation)
sp1786 wrote:
what can i do in such situation
Scream and run like a headless chicken... :laugh: Seriously, the first thing is to get a bunch of reference material that can be found here: Free ebooks from Microsoft; second, get a lot of help resources that can be found mainly here in the Code Project and Stack Overflow; third, use Google, it may help you to get out of a problem very quickly (if you have a doubt probably it has been asked before). :)
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