Will Windows 8/Metro be dead on arrival?
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I installed Windows 8 Enterpise evaluation and I hated it in the beginning and wanted to go back to Win7 which is still installed on another partition. I decided to give Win8 a chance and use it for a few days. Now it's been 17 days and I like it. I don't boot into Win7 any more. I use Win8 for web development, Visual Studio 2012, SQL Server 2012. Win8 is fast. I tried SourceFilmmaker on Win7 and 8 and it's more responsive under Win8, it was an obvious benchmark, I have a 4 years old laptop. I don't use Metro apps, they don't belong on desktop, just ignore them. The Start screen is fine. I don't miss the start button, just drop your mouse into the corner. The only thing that moved too far is the power button, before I could hibernate in two clicks, now it's not so convenient. Anyone who's sceptical give it a go, try to do work in desktop mode, forget about metro, stick with Win8 for a week, overcome some initial frustration because the cheese has been moved and you will like it. It's a good fast OS. Tomorrow your grandma or granddaughter will be using it because they just bought a new PC, you wouldn't want to be limping behind and not being able to help them learning new tricks. Overcome your ignorance, catch the cutting edge wave :-)
After reading various comments such as this I wonder how much good reading all those articles did me. Looking back, I think none of them commented much - or even mentioned - desktop mode. At least, even if they did, I recall nothing about it. I know that I'll never get used to Metro - just by looking at those screenshots I've seen I know I don't want that kind of screaming wall of ads shouting down at me from a 24 inch screen, thank you very much. But desktop mode may be quite agreeable, who knows?
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
The only thing I think is needed on the Win8 start screen is a hierarchal nature. For example, I'd like to have all my DevTools grouped under one tile, that expands to a menu when selected. Not too much of an issue though. One technique that can help those who really miss the start menu is to make a Taskbar Toolbar that has a link to the old start menu location - this will show links to most of the stuff that would have been on the Start Menu anyway. On my machine, that involves right-clicking the taskbar, choosing "New Toolbar", and setting the folder to the Start Menu folder (which still exists for legacy uses).
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Are you saying you only have Vista (or Linux) on all your machines? Just wondering, because I found Win7 to be incredibly stable and smooth to work with, even compared to the aged and proven XP, whereas Vista was just a homungous resource hog. If you have no qualms about the new interface paradigm, then I can easily imagine that you prefer the streamlined Win8 over Vista.
the test pc (mom's) was vista... in italian... ugh! my devel machine is win 7, laptop win 7, workstation win 7, file server is fedora. vista got better after service pack 1 and some say it was on par with 7 and it's expected as they are so closely related. i don't know this first hand as i never used it (vista)extensively. so i'm a win 7 guy, visual studio developer. i'm not crazy about the new interface, nor i dislike. it can be useful to some folks after getting used to it. i think it's useful if we are to have a unified windows experience. remember that ppl are resitant to change and some are plain lazy and like to complain. i think the other many changes are definetly worth the hassle. i see win 8 being well accepted and becoming the norm. it will make win 7 obsolete faster than win 7 made win xp.
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I installed Windows 8 Enterpise evaluation and I hated it in the beginning and wanted to go back to Win7 which is still installed on another partition. I decided to give Win8 a chance and use it for a few days. Now it's been 17 days and I like it. I don't boot into Win7 any more. I use Win8 for web development, Visual Studio 2012, SQL Server 2012. Win8 is fast. I tried SourceFilmmaker on Win7 and 8 and it's more responsive under Win8, it was an obvious benchmark, I have a 4 years old laptop. I don't use Metro apps, they don't belong on desktop, just ignore them. The Start screen is fine. I don't miss the start button, just drop your mouse into the corner. The only thing that moved too far is the power button, before I could hibernate in two clicks, now it's not so convenient. Anyone who's sceptical give it a go, try to do work in desktop mode, forget about metro, stick with Win8 for a week, overcome some initial frustration because the cheese has been moved and you will like it. It's a good fast OS. Tomorrow your grandma or granddaughter will be using it because they just bought a new PC, you wouldn't want to be limping behind and not being able to help them learning new tricks. Overcome your ignorance, catch the cutting edge wave :-)
I installed Win 8 on a spare laptop to see how it'd go. I liked it enough that it's now on my main desktop. It was strange at first, but once I got familiar with the changes, it is actually quite nice. It's a lot faster. I don't bother with hibernate or sleep. Win 8 boots up so fast, I just shut down completely (I'm in Florida which has major lightning issues in the summer, so off is always better). At first I kept hunting for the "Shut down" option, but now I simply press the power button on the tower. I have it configured in Windows to "shut down," which it does very gracefully. One big change on the desktop is that the Windows key has become far more important. Windows-F lets you find things (like the calculator). Windows-Q brings up the search AND your apps, etc. Experiment a bit and you'll find quick access to everything. Task Manager is far more informative, devices seem to work a little better, and there's now much better spell-check across the apps (including in IE10). Not as a developer, but a regular user, I really like the integration between Office 2013, Win 8 and SkyDrive. I find myself using the Excel Web App on SkyDrive to update spreadsheets or to share photos with my wife and family. It just seems to work better. And logging in with my Live ID rather than a local account gives me a pseudo-roaming profile. Some of my links and favorites show up regardless of which machine I use to log on. I think once people get done with the griping, they'll see it's actually an improvement. The Modern UI interface (previously Metro) is odd, I'll grant you that. But it grows on you after a couple of weeks.
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i just installed win 8 on mom's acer laptop (dual core@1,6ghz, 2gb ram, dog slow hdd). it ran vista and it was unbearable. win 8 just runs decent. it's fluid, starts relatively fast, closes fast. has the option to reset/restore/keep file versions. i just don't get this bitching about the start button and start menu. the new metro stuff has a bit of a learning curve but i think it's quite nice. one can have all it's stuff there: email preview, chat, photos cycling, facebook updates. i won't be using that much but it's ok for people that only do browsing, facebook, email, im etc. just love the way it's fluid even on crap hardware. i can say that i don't like the fact that you have two sets of system config: one from metro and one from desktop. i guess the metro version is needed as tablets can do with a watered down version of config. i believe that one can do most of the config a average person may need to do in the metro version. for the knowledgeable there is always "win + x". learn the few keyboard shortcuts that are really useful like win + x! your life with win 8 will be so much easier. one thing that i really love besides the restore/reset/file versions is storage spaces. that one is something that drove me towards linux to get that working. it took me weeks and moths to set it up ia a accepatble way. there are some speed issues there but the benefits are so great. all in all i'm looking forward to move to windoes 8 my work pc, my wife's (very decent acer timeline) laptop, my linux(fedora/amahi) file server. it's the first time i install a windows before it's available to the masses and i am quite happy. it's not perfect but it it definetly worth the upgrade, for tech heads as well as for "normal" folks.
I fully agree. Is very fast! And VS 2012 is very fast, too!! So, I have to say: change right now!
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I installed Windows 8 Enterpise evaluation and I hated it in the beginning and wanted to go back to Win7 which is still installed on another partition. I decided to give Win8 a chance and use it for a few days. Now it's been 17 days and I like it. I don't boot into Win7 any more. I use Win8 for web development, Visual Studio 2012, SQL Server 2012. Win8 is fast. I tried SourceFilmmaker on Win7 and 8 and it's more responsive under Win8, it was an obvious benchmark, I have a 4 years old laptop. I don't use Metro apps, they don't belong on desktop, just ignore them. The Start screen is fine. I don't miss the start button, just drop your mouse into the corner. The only thing that moved too far is the power button, before I could hibernate in two clicks, now it's not so convenient. Anyone who's sceptical give it a go, try to do work in desktop mode, forget about metro, stick with Win8 for a week, overcome some initial frustration because the cheese has been moved and you will like it. It's a good fast OS. Tomorrow your grandma or granddaughter will be using it because they just bought a new PC, you wouldn't want to be limping behind and not being able to help them learning new tricks. Overcome your ignorance, catch the cutting edge wave :-)
you said it better than i did. just give it a chance! don't get pissed because you can't find the start button. it's a lot more than this, a lot more! it really works well on old machines and is fluid. if you don't like the start page then go to desktop. give yourselves time to discover it. learn a few useful shortcuts like "windows + x". my mother in law was a pc iliterate but had to use a pc and by state contract she got a mandriva-linux machine. she has been using linux for several years and she can get her job done with it. she just uses an app and that's it. she did not know what linux was but she was using. my point is that things sometimes just need adjusting to them. really have the intention on making it work. if after that you still don't like it then... well i rest my case. maybe it's not for u. when starting this i was so and so, but have been researching the matter for moths. after using it a while i just have to have it!
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
I think Windows 8 is the bridge to soften the change of paradigms in UX. Traditional desktop Windows can't simply vanish. So, now we have a choice between metro and traditional desktop. When in the future, the hardware (touch) is on everybody's home, people get used to the new way to do things and software had been migrated, then it's when traditional Desktop windows will be phased out. This will take time, but the transition has to start somewhere. And that's Windows 8. I still can't picture replacing my regular notebook with a touch based notebook yet, but that's why Metro still hasn't gotten to me.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
Human beings are different, so some people will like the [Not Metro] interface and others won't. Personally I have used it on my 2nd laptop since the first preview and have upgraded through to the final preview all the way along, but I still hate it - I just don't want to be accused of only trying it for an hour and then giving up. Also, as a Windows professional I need to know it regardless of whether I like it or not. I really think that the central issue is with how people's brains work, and that's not written with any kind of "superior" motive. Some people process images better and some people process the words. When I look at the new start page I just see a forest of icons that I have to work through to find what I want, whereas with the W7 Start menu it was hierarchical and so was relatively faster and certainly less frustrating for me. Also, if I try using the Search text box then - again, the way my particular brain works - it takes me a moment to find the words sometimes for what I want which I also find causes a quick break in the flow of activity. Microsoft say that the Start button had largely fallen into disuse, but that really isn't what I have seen and I work with lots of users. It is my opinion that Microsoft have committed a follow-on blunder which I haven't seen discussed yet and I will explain. I don't like the [Not Metro] interface on a desktop, but I do agree that it works much better on a touch tablet device. However, I think that for the many people who fall into the "hate W8" camp from their desktop experience their experience with W8 tablets will have been poisoned, and they will be less interested in going down that route. I might possibly have gone for a [Not Metro] tablet myself at one stage, but I have to be honest I have fallen into the "I now hate Microsoft in general because they are forcing their customers down this route" camp - and I have been evangelising for them since the early 1990s. They could have had a [Not Metro] environment in a window in the desktop environment, and they COULD have left the Start button in, but however much you like or dislike the new interface they could have incorporated it without forcing it on customers. It was purely a marketing decision, not a technical one. I am unhappy that the classic desktop graphics have been flattened down purely to accommodate lower power devices - it's not progress, it's devolution. I am unhappy that the Aero interface that I have been loving accommodating these most recent years in now dismissed with a tho
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It has drastically better performance, but I guess that's not a compelling reason to upgrade.
Slightly better performance: http://www.techspot.com/review/561-windows8-vs-windows7/[^]
Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
I'll just keep it boxed up in a VM so I can keep an eye on it but I don't plan to use it as a primary O/S on anything I own. I'm OK with having a desktop/laptop and a separate tablet device (iPad3). Win8 offers nothing I can use that I don't already have.
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It has drastically better performance, but I guess that's not a compelling reason to upgrade.
Yes it may be work faster, but after 2 weeks in Win8 I found that I spend more time just to start programs and do daily work. So my productivity becomes worse. I don’t use 100% of computer power I own. So if it does something 5% faster, I probably don’t notice this. Even I skip this year upgrade circle, as I STILL have enough power to do anything I want. On Windows 8 I start using Launchy, to start apps faster without distracting metro start screen. Also switch back to WIN+R for run programs (before just press win and start typing in search what I want to run). Have BIG plan to bring back Windows 7 from disk image in end of September. But from other side I see, that Windows 8, if it success can bring a lot of profit for developers. New OS interface, with no apps. Most of users should spend a lot of money on apps. Almost all areas are open: new file manager, new weather app, photo editing tool… anything… It possible to clone all desktop apps to “metro”, and after upgrade user can’t bring own old apps to this metro screen. I have only one wish: If Microsoft make possible have development of Metro apps on Windows 7 with testing/running in Win8 VM. Right now I don’t see way to create “metro” project on Windows 7.
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As with any new release of Visual Studio, Windows, some language or some database server or just about anything else, I always think, geez, what I really want is something a lot simpler. I probably don't use 90% of VS's features - syntax highlighting, solution management, debugging. That's it. The rest just gets in the way, and I try to configure the environment to minimize that (no task window, compiler output set to "quiet", automatic "show me the output window" when compiling, etc.) The OS is like that too. There are so many brain-dead things about Windows. I have to select a list of music in reverse order (bottom to top) to then press Enter and have them play in top-to-bottom order. Most of the OS either gets in the way or doesn't support how I want to do things, which is why I end up installing things like Fences and Xplorer2. So no, I don't want my OS to be styled after some commuter subway / bus / train signage. I don't want it to act like a tablet (where it makes more sense) to display everything in full screen mode. I have 3 monitors and dozen or more windows opened often enough, not including browser tabs. I don't want to switch to "desktop mode" or whatever they call it, giving me the impression that I'm a retard for reverting back to the "old" way of doing things, but then again, to run ANY of the programs I want to actually use, I have to use the "retarded" way of doing things. Where's the logic in that? Metro is just another "dumb it down" interface. If a client wants something written in Metro, then sure, pay me the bucks and I'll have fun learning more, but personally, it's not for me on the desktop. I'm sure I wouldn't have any problems with it on a tablet or phone, because in that context, it makes more sense, because of the ergonomics of the device. That should be the driving factor, IMO. Marc
Couldn't have said it better myself, Marc.
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
It would be a shame if that proves to be the case, as it really is much better. The following article is one of the best I've read on other aspects than the NewUI: Windows 8 - A benchmark for Music Production[^]
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
I actually like the Metro interface for smart-phones and tablets. And I also believe that Microsoft did a stand-up job with their developmen tools that makes developing applications for those environments very similar to WPF or JavaScript\HTML5. However, Microsoft had no reason to mix the environment with the standard desktop, which is still the favored work/play environment on the pc. Like Apple, Microsoft should have simply developed Windows 8 for devuces as a separate OS leaving a version of Windows 8 strictly for the desktop. Then both versions would have sold. However, what they did, though technically well done, was obviously done from the lunatic fringes from management at the company since there is absolutely no sense of logic behind the decision to merge both interface styles together into a single OS. I hope that Windows 8 does well on the smart devices and it should given the ease of development compared to Apple's ludicrous insistence that Objective-C continue as the prime language for their smart device development. This is where Win 8 will win hands down. Nonetheless, like most professional developers, I am hoping that Win 9 will return us to standard desktop interface on the workstation while splitting off the Metro interface to alone to smart device development endeavors...
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com
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Windows 8 is great in that it finally gives developers a stage to sell their apps/games. I have been involved with two apps on the Store at the moment. One is my game Game Dev Tycoon[^] and the other a mind mapping app called NovaMind[^]. We've just hit ten thousand downloads on Game Dev Tycoon. This is our first game. We are a new company. I think that potential exposure alone will see a new wave of apps and games and ultimately Windows 8 is targeted at consumers so if consumers are able to get apps that they like Windows 8 will do great.
Founder of Greenheart Games, makers of Game Dev Tycoon (www.playgamedevtycoon.com). Development Manager and C#/WPF developer at novamind.com - www.patrickklug.com
Patrick Klug wrote:
Windows 8 finally gives developers a stage to sell their apps/games.
This is both good and bad, bad because to be there you need to pay for the privilege and some things are not supported (for example, components or libraries), and good, because it gives you an easy showroom so you can be seen by (literally) millions of people, but as someone else point it, Windows 8 (or Metro) wasn't necessary to make a Windows Store (as the OS X App Store demostrates it).
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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Human beings are different, so some people will like the [Not Metro] interface and others won't. Personally I have used it on my 2nd laptop since the first preview and have upgraded through to the final preview all the way along, but I still hate it - I just don't want to be accused of only trying it for an hour and then giving up. Also, as a Windows professional I need to know it regardless of whether I like it or not. I really think that the central issue is with how people's brains work, and that's not written with any kind of "superior" motive. Some people process images better and some people process the words. When I look at the new start page I just see a forest of icons that I have to work through to find what I want, whereas with the W7 Start menu it was hierarchical and so was relatively faster and certainly less frustrating for me. Also, if I try using the Search text box then - again, the way my particular brain works - it takes me a moment to find the words sometimes for what I want which I also find causes a quick break in the flow of activity. Microsoft say that the Start button had largely fallen into disuse, but that really isn't what I have seen and I work with lots of users. It is my opinion that Microsoft have committed a follow-on blunder which I haven't seen discussed yet and I will explain. I don't like the [Not Metro] interface on a desktop, but I do agree that it works much better on a touch tablet device. However, I think that for the many people who fall into the "hate W8" camp from their desktop experience their experience with W8 tablets will have been poisoned, and they will be less interested in going down that route. I might possibly have gone for a [Not Metro] tablet myself at one stage, but I have to be honest I have fallen into the "I now hate Microsoft in general because they are forcing their customers down this route" camp - and I have been evangelising for them since the early 1990s. They could have had a [Not Metro] environment in a window in the desktop environment, and they COULD have left the Start button in, but however much you like or dislike the new interface they could have incorporated it without forcing it on customers. It was purely a marketing decision, not a technical one. I am unhappy that the classic desktop graphics have been flattened down purely to accommodate lower power devices - it's not progress, it's devolution. I am unhappy that the Aero interface that I have been loving accommodating these most recent years in now dismissed with a tho
Member 2980957 wrote:
Is it really worth taking the time to learn a new technology that could well be replaced again quite soon?
I don't think this technology would be replaced, mainly because Microsoft is pushing it in front of everyone and everywhere (Phones, Computers, Tablets, Xbox, etc.), with the ultimate goal to have a common interface in every screen they can control. Even if Windows 8 flops in the Desktop, they may spin off the Modern UI side and use it only in the tablet space.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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Yes it may be work faster, but after 2 weeks in Win8 I found that I spend more time just to start programs and do daily work. So my productivity becomes worse. I don’t use 100% of computer power I own. So if it does something 5% faster, I probably don’t notice this. Even I skip this year upgrade circle, as I STILL have enough power to do anything I want. On Windows 8 I start using Launchy, to start apps faster without distracting metro start screen. Also switch back to WIN+R for run programs (before just press win and start typing in search what I want to run). Have BIG plan to bring back Windows 7 from disk image in end of September. But from other side I see, that Windows 8, if it success can bring a lot of profit for developers. New OS interface, with no apps. Most of users should spend a lot of money on apps. Almost all areas are open: new file manager, new weather app, photo editing tool… anything… It possible to clone all desktop apps to “metro”, and after upgrade user can’t bring own old apps to this metro screen. I have only one wish: If Microsoft make possible have development of Metro apps on Windows 7 with testing/running in Win8 VM. Right now I don’t see way to create “metro” project on Windows 7.
vitalijs.vaznais wrote:
but after 2 weeks in Win8 I found that I spend more time just to start programs and do daily work
Why? In Windows 8 if you know the name of the app, you hit the Windows key and start typing, just like in the old start menu it will do a search and the more letters you type, the smaller the list gets. Or you could just re-arrange the start screen to put your most used apps in the left most groups as described in this article: Organize Tiles into Groups on the Metro Start Screen in Windows 8[^] Or you could add stuff to the Windows + X menu: How to Add Items to the New Win+X Menu in Windows 8[^] There are lots of additional ways to customize it to make it more easy for you to use, just poke through some of the articles here: The Best Articles for Using and Customizing Windows 8[^] Hope this helps!
Mike Poz
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Yes, here we go again. I realise that this topic has probably been brought up countless times over the past few months but I have to know... what is the general consensus in the developer community about the upcoming release of Windows 8? I know Microsoft wanted to make some big changes to help them break into the tablet market, but is all the ridiculous flipping about between desktop/Metro mode the future or a great big waste of time? Was the removal of the Start Menu from the desktop a step too far? What do you think? All I know is that I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while yet if the final release on the 26th of October turns out like I think it might. :|
A programming language is to a programmer what a fine hat is to one who is fond of fancy garden parties. Just don't try wearing any .NET language on your head. Some of them are sharp.
At first I hated the start screen, but then I came to think of it as being presented with the start menu at boot, rather than having to press the windows key or click the orb, and it started to make sense. It boots faster, presents you with the start menu as soon as it's finished booting, click whatever and you get taken to the desktop and away you go. Not a drastic change from the way it used to be done. when you want to go back to the start menu, you click the bottom left corner of the taskbar. It is both good and bad, the screen transitions will give some people a headache i'm sure (literally and figuratively) but it's not as bad as it used to be now that I've got my head around the start screen being the new start menu. Maybe i'm just used to it, who knows. What I do know is that with the requirements being so small compared to previous versions of Windows, it makes the over all system more stable, and gives me more resources to clog up with Dev environments and such before the system becomes unstable. None of which are reasons to say Win 8 is a MUST HAVE, it's a nice little upgrade in terms of stability and lack of resource hogging, but definitely not a must have upgrade. The jury is still out until I play with the full version rather than the RP version.
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vitalijs.vaznais wrote:
but after 2 weeks in Win8 I found that I spend more time just to start programs and do daily work
Why? In Windows 8 if you know the name of the app, you hit the Windows key and start typing, just like in the old start menu it will do a search and the more letters you type, the smaller the list gets. Or you could just re-arrange the start screen to put your most used apps in the left most groups as described in this article: Organize Tiles into Groups on the Metro Start Screen in Windows 8[^] Or you could add stuff to the Windows + X menu: How to Add Items to the New Win+X Menu in Windows 8[^] There are lots of additional ways to customize it to make it more easy for you to use, just poke through some of the articles here: The Best Articles for Using and Customizing Windows 8[^] Hope this helps!
Mike Poz
Now lets see what was the name of that app again? Man, if I didn't where a name tag, I wouldn't remember my own name. Not sure how well Metro will handle it (I could never get any of the 3 previews to install in a VM with 2MB of memory and a 30GB virtual HD on Win. 7). But running Ubuntu Unity, which does the same thing, I was finding I had to search and search as I either mistyped the name or entered the "wrong name". A lot easier to navigate the drop down menus than to try and remember what something was called - especially if you only use it sporadically.
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SixOfTheClock wrote:
I won't be scrambling to this new OS for a good while
Same here. I do not have any real justifiable reasons to do an upgrade to it.
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus