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Yes but why spend 30-60% more for a same product( talking about same or sometimes even better specifications and functionality) just because there's a biten apple on the box/product?
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
Mendor81 wrote:
just because there's a biten rotten apple on the box/product
FTFY
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Yes but why spend 30-60% more for a same product( talking about same or sometimes even better specifications and functionality) just because there's a biten apple on the box/product?
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
It's a lot more complex than that. There's brand awareness to take into account, availability of Apps (one of Androids biggest problems is the lack of a central app store in my opinion; well, that and the fact that early versions were prone to crashing). Plus, Apple products appear to be innovators to the consumer. Given the simplicity and perceived reliability of Apple products, and it's easy to see why it's such a success. The iPhone is the phone you give to someone non technical when they just want something that works.
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Thanks, and almost geographicly correct :D just some km away from Barcelona And yes i appologize, we here say 1.000 million, not billion.. sorry for that linguistic lapsus :P
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
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Hi everyone, i've just been back from vacation (3 weeks disconnect from everything, no news no i-net no nothing...awesome) when i came back i saw that apple won the lawsuit against Samsung and Samsung has to pay the ammount of 1.000 millione US$ due to patent infringement? WTF? I ,personally owning the S3 which appel would love to ban from the market, (sincerly i hope they don't succeed, s3 is so much better then iphone) am worried how far apple will go to preserve their idea to get the monopoly on smartphones. Other question that bargles occupies my mind is why is apple so successfull? to much fanboys? or people with to much money? Discuss!
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
Mendor81 wrote:
Other question that bargles my mind is why is apple so successfull?
Easy: Way back in the day the average user had two choices: IBM/Clone + MS or Apple. Other than the OS, MS focussed more or less on business apps (Word, Excel etc) and still dominate in this market now. Apple's main selling point was it was very good at DTP*, it had a WYSIWYG (not an initialisation that is needed anymore) interface way before MS. This meant the media-types used Mac over MS. Whenever the mediaists tried to use Windows stuff like double-clicking was hard for their little brains, so they stuck with Mac claiming MS was too hard (two buttons, WTF!). Naturally MS overtook Apple (more businesses than Journos) so Apple became the underdog favourite with Media types and hipsters against the "evil empire". Despite Apple (even then) being way more fascist (int the Jargon File sense[^] rather than the Godwin one). These people are still carrying forward and promote the idea the Apple is the personification of all that is good in the world. It's interesting to watch the fanboys justify Apple's recent actions. Only a couple of years ago they were criticising MS as the big bad bull boy, now Apple is just protecting while its IP whilst somehow remaining ice-cool. </rant> * It was also historically more stable than MS, but it enjoyed the advantage of only needing to support Apple hardware.
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It's a lot more complex than that. There's brand awareness to take into account, availability of Apps (one of Androids biggest problems is the lack of a central app store in my opinion; well, that and the fact that early versions were prone to crashing). Plus, Apple products appear to be innovators to the consumer. Given the simplicity and perceived reliability of Apple products, and it's easy to see why it's such a success. The iPhone is the phone you give to someone non technical when they just want something that works.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
(one of Androids biggest problems is the lack of a central app store in my opinion
What about Google Play?
Plus, Apple products appear to be innovators to the consumer. Given the simplicity and perceived reliability of Apple products, and it's easy to see why it's such a success. The iPhone is the phone you give to someone non technical when they just want something that works.
S3 vs Iphone is in my opinion a comparison Apple lost everything thats on the Iphone is on the S3 as well and sometimes even better, Camera for example. Iphone isn't innovative in my opinion because on the earlier version it wasn't capable of Flash, or save video when in the same timespan other products of the competidors where ahead in these features with Video conference for example
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
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(one of Androids biggest problems is the lack of a central app store in my opinion
What about Google Play?
Plus, Apple products appear to be innovators to the consumer. Given the simplicity and perceived reliability of Apple products, and it's easy to see why it's such a success. The iPhone is the phone you give to someone non technical when they just want something that works.
S3 vs Iphone is in my opinion a comparison Apple lost everything thats on the Iphone is on the S3 as well and sometimes even better, Camera for example. Iphone isn't innovative in my opinion because on the earlier version it wasn't capable of Flash, or save video when in the same timespan other products of the competidors where ahead in these features with Video conference for example
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
Mendor81 wrote:
What about Google Play?
What about it? Users aren't locked into that marketplace, so vendors are free to link to their own marketplaces instead.
Mendor81 wrote:
Iphone isn't innovative in my opinion because on the earlier version it wasn't capable of Flash, or save video when in the same timespan other products of the competidors where ahead in these features with Video conference for example
Given that Flash has been killed off for mobile devices, it looks to people like Apple were right. Remember that I said that Apple appear to be innovative (whether or not this is true is a different matter), but the appearance to the consumer is that other phones play catch up with the iPhone. And I say all of this as one of the Apple "haters".
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"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Thanks, and almost geographicly correct :D just some km away from Barcelona And yes i appologize, we here say 1.000 million, not billion.. sorry for that linguistic lapsus :P
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
<envy>That's a seriously cool town. And I don't mean that in a meteorological point of view.</envy>
Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions
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<envy>That's a seriously cool town. And I don't mean that in a meteorological point of view.</envy>
Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions
I know ;) But since my actual goverment isn't inspiring much confidence i'll try to leave country in the next year,...but thats another story....
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
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Hi everyone, i've just been back from vacation (3 weeks disconnect from everything, no news no i-net no nothing...awesome) when i came back i saw that apple won the lawsuit against Samsung and Samsung has to pay the ammount of 1.000 millione US$ due to patent infringement? WTF? I ,personally owning the S3 which appel would love to ban from the market, (sincerly i hope they don't succeed, s3 is so much better then iphone) am worried how far apple will go to preserve their idea to get the monopoly on smartphones. Other question that bargles occupies my mind is why is apple so successfull? to much fanboys? or people with to much money? Discuss!
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
Mendor81 wrote:
Other question that bargles occupies my mind is why is apple so successfull?
It copied the successful elements of "Religion". ..and there's a flight of capital going on. Now, if you took your money out of Spanish bonds, where would you reinvest it? Not in American bonds. Not in something barbaric as gold, as that does not yield income. No, it gets invested in the most-trustworthy looking stock. There's your rotten Apple :)
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Mendor81 wrote:
Other question that bargles my mind
Bargles. What a great word. Apple are successful because they make products that people want to buy.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Apple are successful because they make products that people want to buy are willing to pay for.
FTFY A small, but not insignificant difference.
Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions
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I am ready to be persecuted, hanged, stoned to death or skinned alive if it causes Apple to go bankrupt. Until then, I will happily bear the Wrath of the Univoter for my post And also, let's not forget that there are other people, not only followers and Arthur. Now, there's all the Apple haters here too (off the top of my head, PO'H comes to mind)
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Andrei Straut wrote:
I am ready to be persecuted, hanged, stoned to death or skinned alive if it causes Apple to go bankrupt. Until then, I will happily bear the Wrath of the Univoter for my post
And also, let's not forget that there are other people, not only followers and Arthur. Now, there's all the Apple haters here too (off the top of my head, PO'H comes to mind)I have no time for Apple, my quote is from Life Of Brian and like in hte movie is delivered with much sarcasm.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Andrei Straut wrote:
I am ready to be persecuted, hanged, stoned to death or skinned alive if it causes Apple to go bankrupt. Until then, I will happily bear the Wrath of the Univoter for my post
And also, let's not forget that there are other people, not only followers and Arthur. Now, there's all the Apple haters here too (off the top of my head, PO'H comes to mind)I have no time for Apple, my quote is from Life Of Brian and like in hte movie is delivered with much sarcasm.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
The sarcasm I perceived, I had no idea it was a movie quote though :thumbsup:
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Thanks, and almost geographicly correct :D just some km away from Barcelona And yes i appologize, we here say 1.000 million, not billion.. sorry for that linguistic lapsus :P
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
:laugh: The "He's from Barcelona" is a quote from a 70s UK comedy called "Faulty Towers" - and it's not complementary about the IQ of Spanish waiters, which I why I didn't use it. Funny though, even if I can't watch a whole episode without chewing my own fist in embarrassment.
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The sarcasm I perceived, I had no idea it was a movie quote though :thumbsup:
Full-fledged Java/.NET lover, full-fledged PHP hater. Full-fledged Google/Microsoft lover, full-fledged Apple hater. Full-fledged Skype lover, full-fledged YM hater.
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Oh no, that's dead simple. All women!
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Rage wrote:
So I presume you can't tell how you recognize that someone is a witch ?
They're made of wood. How's your outraaaaageous accent going?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Rage wrote:
So I presume you can't tell how you recognize that someone is a witch ?
They're made of wood. How's your outraaaaageous accent going?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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"I don't want to talk to you anymore ! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of eldeberries." I did not remember this one, though, had to look it up.
Rage wrote:
"I don't want to talk to you anymore ! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of eldeberries."
I did not remember this one, though, had to look it up.You animal food trough wiper. You wiper of other people bottoms. Now go away, or I shall taunt you some more.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
