North Korea Defection
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Bill, I'm sure you remember East German refugees defecting to West Germany? The situation in North Korea is orders of magnitude worse. Systematic starvation and brainwashing. The North Korean population is cut off from the rest of the world. Information is restricted from flowing into the country - most North Koreans are unaware of the moon landing, basic human rights and the ability to purchase as much food as you need. :( /ravi
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Hi Ravi, Yes, I am quite aware of the facts you cite, but I cannot see what the point was in your stating them, in this context, as a response to this particular message. Did you infer, from my vote for option three, that I would advocate sending this defector back to North Korea: if so, I ask you to examine that, because: to me, that inference does not logically follow from my choice of option three :) It is also a fact that both North and South Korea are engaged in significant espionage against each other using human agents, and every other means possible. And, of course, the US maintains intense surveillance of N. Korea, as well as probably collaborating with (in ways we'll never know) S. Korean intelligence services. best, Bill
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Except, nobody defects to North Korea. /ravi
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Didn't Leonard's girlfriend in Big Bang Theory do just that? :-)
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Didn't Leonard's girlfriend in Big Bang Theory do just that? :-)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
Big Bang Theory
Haven't seen the show. :( (I don't watch much TV). /ravi
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mark merrens wrote:
Big Bang Theory
Haven't seen the show. :( (I don't watch much TV). /ravi
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Big Bang Theory is considered mandatory for geeks.
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Interesting - just like something out of a movie. A North Korean guard killed his superiors[^], then defected to South Korea. Technically speaking, the two countries are still at war, and "all's fair..." as the saying goes. But the guy admits to committing what would be classified as murder for a civilian in a civilized country. Not wanting to start a political discussion, let's keep it civil - I'm curious about world opinion, and we have a great cross-section here. Do you think South Korea should give him back to stand trial, or risk elevating the "war" by giving him asylum? If I was making the decision, I honestly don't know what I'd do.:confused: So, no discussion here, just vote: 1. Send him back. 3. I dunno, I'm confused, too. 5. Protect him at all cost.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Interesting - just like something out of a movie. A North Korean guard killed his superiors[^], then defected to South Korea. Technically speaking, the two countries are still at war, and "all's fair..." as the saying goes. But the guy admits to committing what would be classified as murder for a civilian in a civilized country. Not wanting to start a political discussion, let's keep it civil - I'm curious about world opinion, and we have a great cross-section here. Do you think South Korea should give him back to stand trial, or risk elevating the "war" by giving him asylum? If I was making the decision, I honestly don't know what I'd do.:confused: So, no discussion here, just vote: 1. Send him back. 3. I dunno, I'm confused, too. 5. Protect him at all cost.
Will Rogers never met me.
How does this not fall under posting rule number 4?
Posting rules for the lounge:
4. No politics ... This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.
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How does this not fall under posting rule number 4?
Posting rules for the lounge:
4. No politics ... This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesActually, it was a test directed specifically at programmers. One of the most important skills a programmer must develop is the ability to read and understand requirements accurately, then faithfully implement them. The instructions were: "... no discussion here, just vote:" By my count, 6 people passed, at most. It's possible that some of the 6 who voted also posted a comment, thus failing the test, but hopefully a few clicked a number and moved on, as required. How'd you do? ;)
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Actually, it was a test directed specifically at programmers. One of the most important skills a programmer must develop is the ability to read and understand requirements accurately, then faithfully implement them. The instructions were: "... no discussion here, just vote:" By my count, 6 people passed, at most. It's possible that some of the 6 who voted also posted a comment, thus failing the test, but hopefully a few clicked a number and moved on, as required. How'd you do? ;)
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Roger Wright wrote:
How'd you do?
Really good. I saw through all your bullshit and recognized you were posting political commentary in the lounge. :doh: Shame on you. You should know better.
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Roger Wright wrote:
How'd you do?
Really good. I saw through all your bullshit and recognized you were posting political commentary in the lounge. :doh: Shame on you. You should know better.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored. I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision. I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call. Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center. Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself. Have you always been a consummate ass, or was there a time when you were a reasonable human being? Do you ever miss the simple things in life, like respect and credibility? ;P Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored. I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision. I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call. Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center. Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself. Have you always been a consummate ass, or was there a time when you were a reasonable human being? Do you ever miss the simple things in life, like respect and credibility? ;P Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
I do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Sorry Rodger but I have to call you out on this one. I hope you can respect me because I did.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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Roger Wright wrote:
I do know better, and I specifically requested no discussion, which was largely ignored.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
I offered no commentary whatsoever, merely pointed out that I would be hard pressed to make a decision.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
I was curious to learn whether the general population would be troubled by indecision, or find it easy to make a judgement call.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Most of those who ignored my request and posted a discussion, I found, were quite able to reach a decision, based on preconceived notions, yet of those who followed instructions and voted, the result was balanced, with the average falling in the center.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Quite interesting, and the more so because so many found it impossible to read and follow directions, including yourself.
Feinding stupidity. I didn't know that posting a controversial subject would cause people to respond.
Roger Wright wrote:
Honestly, Jimmie, I have long read and enjoyed your commentary, but you've really over-reached on this one. Resorting to insult and crude language is beneath you - you're a better man than that.
Sorry Rodger but I have to call you out on this one. I hope you can respect me because I did.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesApparently spelling isn't your forte, nor is logic or rational thinking. I apologize for having overestimated you for so long...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Apparently spelling isn't your forte, nor is logic or rational thinking. I apologize for having overestimated you for so long...
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
Apparently spelling isn't your forte
In my business misspelled words that are consistent are just another variable name. Oh, that's right, you're not a computer scientist. :doh: I was always told by teachers in high school that if I didn't learn to spell that I wouldn't be able to go to university. When I was admitted to university in the mathematics curriculum I found out that not being able to spell was almost a requirement for getting into the program. People that could spell didn't have the right aptitude for the program and went into liberal arts or engineering.
Roger Wright wrote:
nor is logic or rational thinking
Says the liberal atrs, err, engineering graduate.
Roger Wright wrote:
I apologize for having overestimated you for so long
Don't be. I have known for quite some time that you are delusional.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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