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  • D Dan Neely

    Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up...

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    Dan Neely wrote:

    Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up

    Hi Dan, I find this a very intriguing statement; if you care to say a few more words about what you mean by this, I would really enjoy being able to read them. thanks, Bill

    ~ Confused by Windows 8 ? This may help: [^] !

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      gavindon wrote:

      I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

      Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      VirtualBox

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        gavindon wrote:

        I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

        Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        vmware.. I'm running 2010, so 2013 I cant answer for. I bet it will work well enough to develop for though.

        Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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          VirtualBox

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Awesome, I'll try that one first (supposing the website becomes available tomorrow... it's down at the moment). I just watched this video and it looks pretty simple.

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            Lost User
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            So you have not yet run into that young and promising programmer who lectured you about the things you 'nowadays' don't have to think about anymore? Stuff like measuring the performance or managing memory?

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              I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              I can think of many reasons not to buy a fruit. But not being able to run a sharepoint server on it, is not one of them. :)

              People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                I can think of many reasons not to buy a fruit. But not being able to run a sharepoint server on it, is not one of them. :)

                People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                Lost User
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                Wait until I buy my next Rolls Royce to drive the potatoes to the market :)

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                  gavindon wrote:

                  I forgot to mention that I only allow about 4 gig on the vm.. it still works, sharepoint does function fully

                  Awesome! I'll have to give it a try then. :thumbsup: By the way, what software do you use to host your VMs? I was thinking Hyper-V Client, but then I'd have to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and I'm not sure my Mac's gonna like that. Alternatively, I'll be looking into VMware Player or Workstation. Oh, FYI, I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  leppie
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                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                  I'll be using SharePoint 2013, so not sure if your experience would still hold true, but I'll try it anyway.

                  Nope, SP2010 works under 4GB, 8GB is better, but not enough if you need to do with reporting stuff too (those silly BI things). At least on a SSD, virtual memory is faster ;p

                  IronScheme
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                    Wait until I buy my next Rolls Royce to drive the potatoes to the market :)

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    You do that, and I'll pick you up in my Case Steiger Quadtrac on the way to the casino in Monte Carlo.

                    People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      You do that, and I'll pick you up in my Case Steiger Quadtrac on the way to the casino in Monte Carlo.

                      People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                      Lost User
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                      You mean to say that picking me up will be even more absurd than delivering potatos with a Rolls or running Sharepoint on a fruitcake? :)

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                        You mean to say that picking me up will be even more absurd than delivering potatos with a Rolls or running Sharepoint on a fruitcake? :)

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Definitely, but I also thought that arriving at the Casino in Monte Carlo in a tractor costing more than most cars there would also be priceless. And if I ever do, I want a witness that appreciates the absurdity.

                        People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          Dan Neely wrote:

                          Well, when the VS2012 and Win8 teams inexplicably refused to pick up Intel's latest gauntlet someone had to step up

                          Hi Dan, I find this a very intriguing statement; if you care to say a few more words about what you mean by this, I would really enjoy being able to read them. thanks, Bill

                          ~ Confused by Windows 8 ? This may help: [^] !

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                          Dan Neely
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                          Previous versions of windows and visual studio always appear to've taken Moore's Law as a challenge and tried to add enough stuff that the faster hardware didn't result in a faster experience.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Good to know! I hate when recommendations are listed as requirements.

                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            my dev machine has 256 GB RAM

                            I just simultaneously puked and shit my pants in disbelief and amazement! :thumbsup:

                            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                            What's best is that it's all in 128kb memory cards, so he can cook five pizzas on the memory array while processing mid-sized transaction files.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              AspDotNetDev wrote:

                              it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle.

                              You wanted to be iAspDotNetDev. :rolleyes:

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                                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle.

                                You wanted to be iAspDotNetDev. :rolleyes:

                                The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                                Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                AspDotNetDev
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                                Hmmm, iAspDotNetDev.com isn't taken yet... ;P

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB.

                                  Meh - I was developing SPS 2013 until a few months ago and my best machine had 12 GB. Now I am developing SAP HANA and my dev machine has 256 GB RAM (not a typo).

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                  my dev machine has 256 GB RAM (not a typo).

                                  :wtf:

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                    I just got a brand new MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM... enough for the most challenging of tasks, I thought. Except the minimum recommended RAM for a SharePoint Server installation used for development (not production) is 24GB. :wtf: I guess there is still some alternative way of developing for SharePoint without needing all that RAM (some Office 365 something or other), but it still makes me cry that the first thing I set a goal to do is something my stupidly expensive new computer can't handle. :|

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    Isn't it odd that you are demanding that a development server installation, run on a laptop?

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                                      Isn't it odd that you are demanding that a development server installation, run on a laptop?

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                                      AspDotNetDev
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                                      Isn't it odd that phones are more powerful than desktops were in 1999? Hardware capability is what matters, not form factor. I suppose I could try running it on my home desktop (4GB) or my work desktop (8GB), but I think I'll stick with my laptop (16GB). I've very nearly got it running on Mac OS X in a VirtualBox VM that has Windows Server 2012 installed, but I'm getting some obscure error during the configuration wizard (which is technically after installation). Grumble grumble. I'm beginning to see why people dislike SharePoint so much.

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                        Just annoyed that any individual program would have such an insane minimum requirement.

                                        Can't argue with that!

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                        alexander ypema
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                                        ..Did you guys just have a non-flaming argument that involved Apple AND Microsoft? :wtf:

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                                        • A alexander ypema

                                          ..Did you guys just have a non-flaming argument that involved Apple AND Microsoft? :wtf:

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                                          Ath1
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                                          A guy with the nick 'AspDotNetDev' buying a Macbook Pro? Come on... :rolleyes:

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