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Why wouldn't a technocracy work?

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  • L Lost User

    No. At the moment we have a government formed of the idiot sons of incredibly wealthy idiots. It is a very different class of idiot to the bloke who got fired from his dung shoveling job cos he kept holding his shovel upside down.

    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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    ChrisBraum
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    ChrisElston wrote:

    the bloke who got fired from his dung shoveling job cos he kept holding his shovel upside down

    Do you mean something like a President who was photographed reading to children with the book upside down? :laugh:

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    • L Lost User

      Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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      Fran Porretto
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      If you think the RWARs are bad now, just wait until C++, C#, and Java devotees are all contending for power. Brace placement? Spaces or tabs? BAH! You ain't seen nothing yet. Doesn't matter to me, anyway. I'm an anarcho-monarchist. I tend to ignore power structures of all sorts...until I can see the whites of their eyes. (Yes, Virginia, the AR-15A really is accurate at 200 meters.)

      (This message is programming you in ways you cannot detect. Be afraid.)

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      • B BillWoodruff

        MehGerbil wrote:

        only an idiot or a terrorist would fail to see the brillance of my answers.

        Well, Meh, I consider that statement: the epitome of technocracy in action. :) yrs, Bill

        ~ "access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." The future as envisioned by Eric Schmidt, CEO, Google.

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        Lost User
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        Bill, I was wondering if you'd like to be the new government's token opposition. Think Star Trek red-shirt. -MehGerbil

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        • L Lost User

          Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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          Brad Stiles
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          Why wouldn't it work? Because I am the only one qualified to run such a government, and all of the rest of you would be revolting simply because, in your ignorance, you didn't agree, so nothing would ever get done.

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          • S Sasha Laurel

            That is probably a really good point, not to mention putting a group that is classically (generally speaking) socially awkward (or even dysfunctional) in charge of a society.

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            Fabio Franco
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            You'd never see politicians outdoors. They'd be all playing video games.

            To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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            • L Lost User

              ChrisElston wrote:

              You might as well form a government of village idiots

              An Idiocracy?

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              RafagaX
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              CDP1802 wrote:

              An Idiocracy?

              We know no other form of goverment. :doh:

              CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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              • L Lost User

                Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                RafagaX
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                Technomonarchy suits me better... ¡Long life to the geek king! :-D ... anyway, if history has taught us something is that no matter who is in charge, those who are not are screwed.

                CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                • L Lost User

                  Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                  Caleb Holt
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                  The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
                  Winston Churchill

                  The best argument against Technocracy is 2 seconds in the presence of an internet troll!

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                  • R RafagaX

                    CDP1802 wrote:

                    An Idiocracy?

                    We know no other form of goverment. :doh:

                    CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                    dracopql
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                    :thumbsup:

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Government, whilst necessary, will always be inherently flawed regardless of who you put in charge, be they a lying politician or a blinkered technocrat. What we have might be bad but I really don't think putting a bunch of environmentalists or unix geeks or theoretical physicists in charge will help: why would they know more about life and running a country than a self-serving politician?

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      Old Ed
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                      Well said.

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        Government, whilst necessary, will always be inherently flawed regardless of who you put in charge, be they a lying politician or a blinkered technocrat. What we have might be bad but I really don't think putting a bunch of environmentalists or unix geeks or theoretical physicists in charge will help: why would they know more about life and running a country than a self-serving politician?

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                        Florin Jurcovici
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                        Please please please Unix geeks! They’d create a platform which is stable, reliable and secure, and just let specialists collaborate via simple yet powerful mechanisms (a.k.a. pipes) to solve actual government issues. That’d be the best government ever.

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                        • F Florin Jurcovici

                          Please please please Unix geeks! They’d create a platform which is stable, reliable and secure, and just let specialists collaborate via simple yet powerful mechanisms (a.k.a. pipes) to solve actual government issues. That’d be the best government ever.

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          Deserves a 5 for sheer chutzpah. :-)

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                          • L Lost User

                            Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                            bwallan
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                            Right off, I don't think democracy is failing. It is simply being a "democracy"... I'd vote for a benevolent dictatorship as the best form of government; however, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! Let's stay with something we can all vote on and complain about :cool:

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                            • L Lost User

                              We'd have endless arguments over whether the list of constitutional amendements should begin with a 1 or a 0. Senator 1: I move that we adopt amendment 1 protecting the rights of Linux users to date. Senator 2: Do you mean the first amendment or the second amendment?

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                              KP Lee
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                              Isn't that obvious? Negative amendements would begin with 1 and positive amendements would begin with 0.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                                KP Lee
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                                Well, the biggest problem I can see is that it would be ruled by an elite group that wouldn't want any more people involved in the policies that would be imposed. With democracy, along with the idiots who never should have been elected in the first place, you get the occasional intelligent politician along with the dashed hope of getting logical rules in government.

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                                • F Florin Jurcovici

                                  Please please please Unix geeks! They’d create a platform which is stable, reliable and secure, and just let specialists collaborate via simple yet powerful mechanisms (a.k.a. pipes) to solve actual government issues. That’d be the best government ever.

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                                  User 3760773
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                                  Until a bunch of them decided their ideas were technically superior and decided to fork the government.

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                                  • C Caleb Holt

                                    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
                                    Winston Churchill

                                    The best argument against Technocracy is 2 seconds in the presence of an internet troll!

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    JSOP doesn't need two seconds.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      First, technology does not solve problems. It facilitates solutions which are created by people (as are many of the problems, of course.) Second: the scientific method to solving social problems Science is in not the appropriate "technology" to solve social problems. People are. You can't solve social problems with Seldon-esque psycho-history and the like. Marc

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Since democracy is obviously failing there is a need to find another form of government. The suggestion to adopt a technocracy [^]has been put on the table. Let's evaluate the idea - see any problems?

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                                        Nick Polyak
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                                        As long the the software engineers are at the very top ... I agree. The government by software engineers for software engineers:)

                                        Nick Polyak

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                                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                          Really, Godwin's Law already?

                                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                          Rob Graham
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                                          :thumbsup:

                                          "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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