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It's not guns that kill people, it's stoopid that does.

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  • L Lost User

    ChrisElston wrote:

    But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it.

    Once your in a murdering mood everything becomes a weapon. The time two kids tried to mug me, I was holding an mp3-player.

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    Lost User
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    It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though. I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

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      Eytukan
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      If you read our local news papers, you'll disagree with yourself. Out of 10 murder attempts by knife or sharp weapons, at least 3-4 recover through first aid and immediate admission into ICU. And when you look into most cases, they say "The victim bled to death". Which means the victim has been unattended for hours after the attack. Only few cases end in immediate death. Like a stab straight to the heart, slitting the throat. etc. But all these can never draw parallel to a head shot. Am I right?

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      • R Rutvik Dave

        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

        or... stupid watches idiot box. Well the show went downhill in this season, I hope they cancel/end it before it becomes soap. (Hey, no one is planning to shot me right? RIGHT!?)

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        Eytukan
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        And too many stupids spend the entire day reading a book. I mean Facebook! those doomed Facebook addicts rot their time into darkness. X|

        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          stupid watches TV

          You may have cause and effect reversed. :shrug:

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          Pete OHanlon
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          :laugh: I'll grant you that.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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            Michael Bergman
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            You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.

            m.bergman

            For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

            To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

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            • S soap brain

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              It doesn't make the argument any less valid by trivialising it and using potatoes in it's place.

              I'm genuinely curious. What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              How about if you'd substituted bricks in there instead?

              OK. Let's suppose he took bricks in there. Would twelve people have been killed and fifty-eight injured? Would he have used a wheelbarrow, or just carried three or four in his arms?

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              FyreWyrm
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              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?

              How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices. There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.

              Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                wizardzz
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                As if dating someone who thinks The Walking Dead is realistic weren't embarrassing enough. If it's so realistic: How are their cars so clean, while their clothes are so dirty?

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                • M Michael Bergman

                  You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.

                  m.bergman

                  For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                  To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                  In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

                  I am not a chatbot

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  • F FyreWyrm

                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                    What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?

                    How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices. There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.

                    Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.

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                    soap brain
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                    FyreWyrm wrote:

                    How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices.

                    Very few people can successfully make explosives. Moreover, explosives require preparation, more often than not. Consider Anders Breivik - he killed eight people with his car-bomb and sixty-nine with his guns.

                    FyreWyrm wrote:

                    There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.

                    If people are determined, they will. Most shootings are not so premeditated; nobody mixes up some fertilizer explosive immediately after he catches his wife cheating on him.

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                    • L Lost User

                      It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though. I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                      ChrisElston wrote:

                      It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though.

                      You'd be surprised. As though as the human body is, it's still a fragile system.

                      ChrisElston wrote:

                      I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.

                      Adrenaline makes sure you don't get tired before you're "out of danger". Rage and anger might have a similar effect, blocking logical reasoning.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12? I'm sorry, but you are talking complete bollocks there and unfortunately this thread has gone completely off the track of saying how stupid it is to get that worked up over a piece of prime time schlock TV.

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                        BobJanova
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                        So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12?

                        Uh, yes. I don't understand how you don't see that :confused: That's why we've all heard of Anders Breivik and not the thousands of people who kill one other person.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.

                          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                          She shouldn't have been criticizing the show. It is inexcusable that we live in a world where a woman would feel like she could do that.

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                          • M Michael Bergman

                            You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.

                            m.bergman

                            For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                            To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                            In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

                            I am not a chatbot

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                            realJSOP
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                            You can try, but you'll just die tired.

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                            • L Lost User

                              But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.

                              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                              jschell
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                              ChrisElston wrote:

                              But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it.

                              Or not since the story basically said otherwise... "...and became so heated that she returned to his house to check on him — and found him waiting for her with a gun."

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12? I'm sorry, but you are talking complete bollocks there and unfortunately this thread has gone completely off the track of saying how stupid it is to get that worked up over a piece of prime time schlock TV.

                                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                                jschell
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                                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12?

                                Certainly that is true in most of the US based on the law. Multiple deaths are more likely to result in a death penalty or more severe penalty. Certainly true in the press. Single deaths are unlikely to lead to national coverage. Certainly true to some extent in the international community. I don't recall any calls for international war crime trials because someone killed a single person.

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                                • M Michael Bergman

                                  You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.

                                  m.bergman

                                  For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                                  To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                                  In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron

                                  I am not a chatbot

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                                  jschell
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                                  Michael Bergman wrote:

                                  You can't run away from a bullet.

                                  And yet people do in fact run away successfully.

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