It's not guns that kill people, it's stoopid that does.
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
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You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.
m.bergman
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
What could he have used that would even approach a firearm?
How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices. There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.
Don't blame me. I voted for Chuck Norris.
FyreWyrm wrote:
How about some of the homemade grenades he booby-trapped his apartment with? He had over 30 of them in his apartment wired up to traps. What if he walked in and lobbed a half dozen grenades into the crowd. More than 12 people would have died. What's your argument now? How about we ban all of the items that could possibly be used to make explosive devices.
Very few people can successfully make explosives. Moreover, explosives require preparation, more often than not. Consider Anders Breivik - he killed eight people with his car-bomb and sixty-nine with his guns.
FyreWyrm wrote:
There goes all modern technology, cleaning supplies, gardening supplies, gasoline/diesel. If people want to kill, they will find a way, regardless of how well regulated anything is.
If people are determined, they will. Most shootings are not so premeditated; nobody mixes up some fertilizer explosive immediately after he catches his wife cheating on him.
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It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though. I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.
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ChrisElston wrote:
It takes a lot longer to beat someone to death with an mp3-player than it does to shoot them dead though.
You'd be surprised. As though as the human body is, it's still a fragile system.
ChrisElston wrote:
I'm fairly certain I'd get tired and give up long before death occurred.
Adrenaline makes sure you don't get tired before you're "out of danger". Rage and anger might have a similar effect, blocking logical reasoning.
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So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12? I'm sorry, but you are talking complete bollocks there and unfortunately this thread has gone completely off the track of saying how stupid it is to get that worked up over a piece of prime time schlock TV.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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No, this isn't an attempt to start a debate on gun control. A fan of The Walking Dead shot[^] his girlfriend for saying it was unrealistic. Honestly, if he didn't have a gun, he'd just have looked for some other weapon. Stupid is as stupid does - unfortunately, in this case, stupid watches TV.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
You can try, but you'll just die tired.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it. When Jerry Sadowitz got punched on stage at the Just For Laughs festival in Montreal (before he outed Jimmy Savile and was no longer allowed on TV) I remember the American comedians mocking the Canadians for their lack of guns and having to walk all the way to the stage just to punch someone. Said more people would get punched, but by the time the angry person had made their way to the stage they'd forgotten what they were angry about or calmed down. In the US all you'd have to do was stand up, shoot, sit down and wait for the next guy.
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ChrisElston wrote:
But if he'd had to look for another weapon he'd have forgotten what he wanted it for by the time he found it.
Or not since the story basically said otherwise... "...and became so heated that she returned to his house to check on him — and found him waiting for her with a gun."
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So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12? I'm sorry, but you are talking complete bollocks there and unfortunately this thread has gone completely off the track of saying how stupid it is to get that worked up over a piece of prime time schlock TV.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
So if I go out and kill 1 it's less reprehensible than killing 12?
Certainly that is true in most of the US based on the law. Multiple deaths are more likely to result in a death penalty or more severe penalty. Certainly true in the press. Single deaths are unlikely to lead to national coverage. Certainly true to some extent in the international community. I don't recall any calls for international war crime trials because someone killed a single person.
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You can run away from a knife or a club. You can't run away from a bullet.
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot