A revisit to "that" prank call
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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I haven't heard it myself, but from what I understand (which may be incorrect), the thing which distressed the nurse was that she publicly revealed personal information about some royal official, not the prank call itself. Like Simon said, however, it was the nurse who had issues.
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Don't forget the overlooked fact and that she was a nurse. When Mrs. Wifey worked for the NHS she often remarked that nurses were the bottom-feeders in the NHS and that management were very quick to pass the blame onto nursing staff as they did many times on the wards she worked on. I believe the management at the hospital that nurse worked at have refuted any suggestion she was facing disciplinary action. Now, that might be true of a private hospital, I don't know, but it's more than possible the hospital is lying. Maybe that nurse had other issues in her life as well but she deserved better than what those two pricks in Sydney did to her. Maybe they're not responsible one iota and maybe what they did was the final catalyst. The radio station has probably made some decent money selling the rights of the interview which'll compensate them for a weekend's loss of revenue not advertising on-air. I agree to an extent that the DJs don't deserve the ordeal they're going through but it was their doing and they take responsibility for it. It's a total mindf**k for sure but maybe it'll teach them to keep their mouths shut. Maybe if they spent more time laughing with people than they do laughing at them they'd be better for it.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
Although, I do agree that they shouldn't be "crucified" for this, I feel they showed tremendously poor judgement in their actions. With that said, they are not responsible for the woman's suicide.
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I haven't heard it myself, but from what I understand (which may be incorrect), the thing which distressed the nurse was that she publicly revealed personal information about some royal official, not the prank call itself. Like Simon said, however, it was the nurse who had issues.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
I haven't heard it myself, but from what I understand (which may be incorrect), the thing which distressed the nurse was that she publicly revealed personal information about some royal official, not the prank call itself.
That's not correct. She transferred the call to the duty nurse who then revealed private medical info.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
She was mother to a 16 year old boy and a 14 year old girl. Why would she leave them and her husband of over 20 years over this? Perhaps she was already depressed about her life.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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AspDotNetDev wrote:
I haven't heard it myself, but from what I understand (which may be incorrect), the thing which distressed the nurse was that she publicly revealed personal information about some royal official, not the prank call itself.
That's not correct. She transferred the call to the duty nurse who then revealed private medical info.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
So it was the nurse who made the transfer, not the nurse who revealed the personal information, who committed suicide? :wtf:
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So it was the nurse who made the transfer, not the nurse who revealed the personal information, who committed suicide? :wtf:
Yeah, crazy huh? Maybe she just told the 2nd nurse it's a call from the palace and so she felt responsible.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Yeah, crazy huh? Maybe she just told the 2nd nurse it's a call from the palace and so she felt responsible.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Indeed. In that case, I wouldn't place any blame on the DJ's. I wouldn't have according to my previous understanding either, but this really makes it plainly obvious that they just happened to call a suicidal woman (i.e., they didn't drive her to be suicidal).
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
You obviously have a strange sense of humour, but that's up to you. Not everyone agrees that this "prank" was funny - and the key thing is did the person on whom the prank was played did not find it funny. The rules for these sort of calls - in the UK and in OZ - are that having carried out your amusing prank, you should ask the victim if they found it funny, and are they happy to have it broadcast. Now there are plenty of examples where this process has been followed and everyone (?) has had a good laugh. My gripe with the distraught DJs is they didn't even consider following the rules, or give any thought to the views of the victim(s) - I'm leaving to one side the gross dereliction of duty by their employer. So you carry on supporting them. I wonder if they will ever carry out a prank again without following the rules - isn't that in itself an admission of their guilt?
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You obviously have a strange sense of humour, but that's up to you. Not everyone agrees that this "prank" was funny - and the key thing is did the person on whom the prank was played did not find it funny. The rules for these sort of calls - in the UK and in OZ - are that having carried out your amusing prank, you should ask the victim if they found it funny, and are they happy to have it broadcast. Now there are plenty of examples where this process has been followed and everyone (?) has had a good laugh. My gripe with the distraught DJs is they didn't even consider following the rules, or give any thought to the views of the victim(s) - I'm leaving to one side the gross dereliction of duty by their employer. So you carry on supporting them. I wonder if they will ever carry out a prank again without following the rules - isn't that in itself an admission of their guilt?
You seem to have a very limited grasp of English. At no point did I say I thought it was funny.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Agreed that they don't deserve this, but if we were all rational about this then how would the media justify their witch hunt of the week? That said, I don't agree that they should have done this particular prank - if it's phoning up someone and having a stupid conversation or generally winding them up, that's fair game. But to have a conversation which could cost someone their job, then publicly broadcast it seems a bit low.
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
I agree that the "prank" doesn't seem to be "bad" enough to cause a suicide let alone the attention it received before the suicide. Honestly... why does ANYONE give a rats ass about "monarchs" in this day and age? My problem with "pranks" of this nature is that by design they publicly make unsuspecting, innocent people look like fools. That's not humour in my opinion.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
The thing about prank calls, is that you know nothing about your victim, nothing about what else they have going on, nothing about their state of mind. This is because you don't care about them, they are selected at random and you don't think about anything that will happen after you hang up. I don't wish to excuse the British press from anything. I don't think anyone should seek to excuse the Australians either. Prank calls are the lowest form of comedy; lazy, selfish, and designed to get laughs by humiliating the victim and encouraging others to laugh at them. Also, for the same reason let's not persecute the two presenters. The station pre-recorded the prank and managers and lawyers passed it for transmission. If everyone involved learns lessons from this at least there'll be something good comes from it. Sadly, I don't have much faith in the press or radio DJs in general to learn anything.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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Indeed. In that case, I wouldn't place any blame on the DJ's. I wouldn't have according to my previous understanding either, but this really makes it plainly obvious that they just happened to call a suicidal woman (i.e., they didn't drive her to be suicidal).
Which is why prank calls are irresponsible. They choose a victim at random and have no idea how it will effect them. Hang up, have a good laugh, no come back. That is how it is supposed to work anyway. Most bullies didn't think their victim would kill themselves, they were just having fun.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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Which is why prank calls are irresponsible. They choose a victim at random and have no idea how it will effect them. Hang up, have a good laugh, no come back. That is how it is supposed to work anyway. Most bullies didn't think their victim would kill themselves, they were just having fun.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
I have to agree. What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired (or struck off if that's possible for a nurse) for breaking patient confidentiality. There wouldn't be the same media screams, but the affects on her and her family would still be terrible. Prank calls are bullying, and nothing more.
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did.
Misrepresentation is often criminal. Death or injury which occurs during criminal activity, even when not directly caused by the activity, often impacts the prosecution of the first.
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You seem to have a very limited grasp of English. At no point did I say I thought it was funny.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
You did not say that it was funny, but you did say that it was not a bad one. Sole point of a "prank" call is to amuse - therefore it follows that the "not bad one" was "not too unfunny" - geddit? You must have some very strange conversations if the other party can't draw conclusions from what you say. You should have a field day with this reply!
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I have to agree. What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired (or struck off if that's possible for a nurse) for breaking patient confidentiality. There wouldn't be the same media screams, but the affects on her and her family would still be terrible. Prank calls are bullying, and nothing more.
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired
Well if she wasn't doing her job, that makes sense. For example, if she neglected to confirm the identity of the individuals calling, then in any situation she did that would be grounds for being fired. On the other hand, any prank calls should be made to be anonymous (e.g., names bleeped out). A call such as this where the hospital is known is not a good setup, as the person being pranked can be publicly identified.
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The thing about prank calls, is that you know nothing about your victim, nothing about what else they have going on, nothing about their state of mind. This is because you don't care about them, they are selected at random and you don't think about anything that will happen after you hang up. I don't wish to excuse the British press from anything. I don't think anyone should seek to excuse the Australians either. Prank calls are the lowest form of comedy; lazy, selfish, and designed to get laughs by humiliating the victim and encouraging others to laugh at them. Also, for the same reason let's not persecute the two presenters. The station pre-recorded the prank and managers and lawyers passed it for transmission. If everyone involved learns lessons from this at least there'll be something good comes from it. Sadly, I don't have much faith in the press or radio DJs in general to learn anything.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
