A revisit to "that" prank call
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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You obviously have a strange sense of humour, but that's up to you. Not everyone agrees that this "prank" was funny - and the key thing is did the person on whom the prank was played did not find it funny. The rules for these sort of calls - in the UK and in OZ - are that having carried out your amusing prank, you should ask the victim if they found it funny, and are they happy to have it broadcast. Now there are plenty of examples where this process has been followed and everyone (?) has had a good laugh. My gripe with the distraught DJs is they didn't even consider following the rules, or give any thought to the views of the victim(s) - I'm leaving to one side the gross dereliction of duty by their employer. So you carry on supporting them. I wonder if they will ever carry out a prank again without following the rules - isn't that in itself an admission of their guilt?
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You obviously have a strange sense of humour, but that's up to you. Not everyone agrees that this "prank" was funny - and the key thing is did the person on whom the prank was played did not find it funny. The rules for these sort of calls - in the UK and in OZ - are that having carried out your amusing prank, you should ask the victim if they found it funny, and are they happy to have it broadcast. Now there are plenty of examples where this process has been followed and everyone (?) has had a good laugh. My gripe with the distraught DJs is they didn't even consider following the rules, or give any thought to the views of the victim(s) - I'm leaving to one side the gross dereliction of duty by their employer. So you carry on supporting them. I wonder if they will ever carry out a prank again without following the rules - isn't that in itself an admission of their guilt?
You seem to have a very limited grasp of English. At no point did I say I thought it was funny.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Agreed that they don't deserve this, but if we were all rational about this then how would the media justify their witch hunt of the week? That said, I don't agree that they should have done this particular prank - if it's phoning up someone and having a stupid conversation or generally winding them up, that's fair game. But to have a conversation which could cost someone their job, then publicly broadcast it seems a bit low.
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
I agree that the "prank" doesn't seem to be "bad" enough to cause a suicide let alone the attention it received before the suicide. Honestly... why does ANYONE give a rats ass about "monarchs" in this day and age? My problem with "pranks" of this nature is that by design they publicly make unsuspecting, innocent people look like fools. That's not humour in my opinion.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
The thing about prank calls, is that you know nothing about your victim, nothing about what else they have going on, nothing about their state of mind. This is because you don't care about them, they are selected at random and you don't think about anything that will happen after you hang up. I don't wish to excuse the British press from anything. I don't think anyone should seek to excuse the Australians either. Prank calls are the lowest form of comedy; lazy, selfish, and designed to get laughs by humiliating the victim and encouraging others to laugh at them. Also, for the same reason let's not persecute the two presenters. The station pre-recorded the prank and managers and lawyers passed it for transmission. If everyone involved learns lessons from this at least there'll be something good comes from it. Sadly, I don't have much faith in the press or radio DJs in general to learn anything.
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Indeed. In that case, I wouldn't place any blame on the DJ's. I wouldn't have according to my previous understanding either, but this really makes it plainly obvious that they just happened to call a suicidal woman (i.e., they didn't drive her to be suicidal).
Which is why prank calls are irresponsible. They choose a victim at random and have no idea how it will effect them. Hang up, have a good laugh, no come back. That is how it is supposed to work anyway. Most bullies didn't think their victim would kill themselves, they were just having fun.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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Which is why prank calls are irresponsible. They choose a victim at random and have no idea how it will effect them. Hang up, have a good laugh, no come back. That is how it is supposed to work anyway. Most bullies didn't think their victim would kill themselves, they were just having fun.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
I have to agree. What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired (or struck off if that's possible for a nurse) for breaking patient confidentiality. There wouldn't be the same media screams, but the affects on her and her family would still be terrible. Prank calls are bullying, and nothing more.
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So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did. So, I want to say publicly that the DJs have my support. They do not deserve the ordeal that they are being put through.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did.
Misrepresentation is often criminal. Death or injury which occurs during criminal activity, even when not directly caused by the activity, often impacts the prosecution of the first.
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You seem to have a very limited grasp of English. At no point did I say I thought it was funny.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
You did not say that it was funny, but you did say that it was not a bad one. Sole point of a "prank" call is to amuse - therefore it follows that the "not bad one" was "not too unfunny" - geddit? You must have some very strange conversations if the other party can't draw conclusions from what you say. You should have a field day with this reply!
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I have to agree. What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired (or struck off if that's possible for a nurse) for breaking patient confidentiality. There wouldn't be the same media screams, but the affects on her and her family would still be terrible. Prank calls are bullying, and nothing more.
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
What if she hadn't killed herself, but had been fired
Well if she wasn't doing her job, that makes sense. For example, if she neglected to confirm the identity of the individuals calling, then in any situation she did that would be grounds for being fired. On the other hand, any prank calls should be made to be anonymous (e.g., names bleeped out). A call such as this where the hospital is known is not a good setup, as the person being pranked can be publicly identified.
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The thing about prank calls, is that you know nothing about your victim, nothing about what else they have going on, nothing about their state of mind. This is because you don't care about them, they are selected at random and you don't think about anything that will happen after you hang up. I don't wish to excuse the British press from anything. I don't think anyone should seek to excuse the Australians either. Prank calls are the lowest form of comedy; lazy, selfish, and designed to get laughs by humiliating the victim and encouraging others to laugh at them. Also, for the same reason let's not persecute the two presenters. The station pre-recorded the prank and managers and lawyers passed it for transmission. If everyone involved learns lessons from this at least there'll be something good comes from it. Sadly, I don't have much faith in the press or radio DJs in general to learn anything.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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Pete, let us look at the evidence... a) They are DJ's b) They are Australian c) They are Dicks So, it can be seen that they deserve a lot of abuse regardless of what they have done.
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i found their interview less than convincing - their responses practiced and manufactured (and personally i think they lacked authentic personality). Clearly these two have been busy this weekend. On the other hand we have the fallout from the levison inquiry - so theres a rampant amount of british press calling the kettle black at the moment. and lets not forget - we all like a good old fashioned witch hunt whipped up by the tabloids. we'll see what happens next i suppose. Bryce
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You did not say that it was funny, but you did say that it was not a bad one. Sole point of a "prank" call is to amuse - therefore it follows that the "not bad one" was "not too unfunny" - geddit? You must have some very strange conversations if the other party can't draw conclusions from what you say. You should have a field day with this reply!
hayrob wrote:
therefore it follows that the "not bad one" was "not too unfunny"
No it doesn't. Unless you have as warped a value system as you appear to have. Not a bad one in this case means that the intent did not appear to be to cause distress. Geddit? As for your assertions that the DJs were derelict, I take it you haven't actually been following the story in the reputable press. It looks like your response was based off the knee jerk reactions of the likes of the Daily Mail. The call was vetted by the lawyers for the media company, and they were the ones who agreed to the call being played. If you listen to the call, it's plainly apparent that it's complete rubbish - how anyone could believe it was the royal family is beyond me, but that's a different matter. I feel sorry for the nurse, but I don't believe that the DJs should be excoriated over this, and the witch hunt that's going on with the gutter press is disgraceful. You should have a field day with this. Oh, and you can abuse vote this reply as well.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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hayrob wrote:
therefore it follows that the "not bad one" was "not too unfunny"
No it doesn't. Unless you have as warped a value system as you appear to have. Not a bad one in this case means that the intent did not appear to be to cause distress. Geddit? As for your assertions that the DJs were derelict, I take it you haven't actually been following the story in the reputable press. It looks like your response was based off the knee jerk reactions of the likes of the Daily Mail. The call was vetted by the lawyers for the media company, and they were the ones who agreed to the call being played. If you listen to the call, it's plainly apparent that it's complete rubbish - how anyone could believe it was the royal family is beyond me, but that's a different matter. I feel sorry for the nurse, but I don't believe that the DJs should be excoriated over this, and the witch hunt that's going on with the gutter press is disgraceful. You should have a field day with this. Oh, and you can abuse vote this reply as well.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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She was mother to a 16 year old boy and a 14 year old girl. Why would she leave them and her husband of over 20 years over this? Perhaps she was already depressed about her life.
Regards, Nish
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It's being mooted over here that it is to do with her Bangalore roots. Apparently when the Royal family visit there it is such a big occasion that is talked about for years after. In the article I read they were suggesting that she would have felt she had let down the Royal Family and embarrassed her own Family. The article(which I can't link to as it's in The Times which is subscription only) puts this case across a lot more convincely than I have here, but you will have more of an idea if this is BS or not? I think also to be unknown one day and then to find yourself on the front page of every Newspaper nationally and a large number internationally the next day for something that was humiliating must have been hard for her to take and at that point she saw as the only way out. If she had waited a few days when it had all calmed down, she would have seen things differently.
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It's being mooted over here that it is to do with her Bangalore roots. Apparently when the Royal family visit there it is such a big occasion that is talked about for years after. In the article I read they were suggesting that she would have felt she had let down the Royal Family and embarrassed her own Family. The article(which I can't link to as it's in The Times which is subscription only) puts this case across a lot more convincely than I have here, but you will have more of an idea if this is BS or not? I think also to be unknown one day and then to find yourself on the front page of every Newspaper nationally and a large number internationally the next day for something that was humiliating must have been hard for her to take and at that point she saw as the only way out. If she had waited a few days when it had all calmed down, she would have seen things differently.
Yeah, it's easy for us to judge her, but until we are in that sort of situation we can never tell how the mind would behave.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
So, as we all know, the nurse who was involved in the Duchess of Cambridge prank call died last week. And now there's a witch hunt in place from the UK press for the 2 DJs who played the prank. I've listened to the call, and it wasn't a bad one - certainly nothing that should have caused the kerfuffle that it did.
Misrepresentation is often criminal. Death or injury which occurs during criminal activity, even when not directly caused by the activity, often impacts the prosecution of the first.
Exactly, look up "thin-skull" cases to find the relevant laws: a helpful page[^] To all those who are defending the pranksters consider that they did not think their prank was inappropriate so why should they be defended from the backlash? If they can't take abuse, they shouldn't dish it out! (IMHO prank = abuse) I think they deserve all the negative attention they brought upon themselves. Through their deliberate actions they caused the death of a human being!
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