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  • S SinghUlarity

    You deserve it if you're using a non-android phone ;P

    I are n00b.

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    Nish Nishant
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    Well I've used iPhones and now a Windows Phone, and I rarely install apps. So even if I had an Android phone, I'd not install this. I only use the browser and email apps irrespective of the phone I use!

    Regards, Nish


    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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    • J Jimmy Savile

      Brady Kelly wrote:

      I'm a contractor that's been here a month and attracted attention by taking too much leave, and being late from transport problems

      And when you are at work, spending all your time dicking about with your phone and personal documents?

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      Brady Kelly
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      I'm not dicking about at work with the scanning, simply asking so that I might have a few responses when I get home and really get scanning.

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      • N Nish Nishant

        Well I've used iPhones and now a Windows Phone, and I rarely install apps. So even if I had an Android phone, I'd not install this. I only use the browser and email apps irrespective of the phone I use!

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        SinghUlarity
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        I don't know much about IE on Windows phone but Safari on the iPhone is terrible, when I was on iOS I avoided it at any cost. Any particular reason for avoiding apps or you're just too lazy to be arsed into installing any? :confused:

        I are n00b.

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          I don't know much about IE on Windows phone but Safari on the iPhone is terrible, when I was on iOS I avoided it at any cost. Any particular reason for avoiding apps or you're just too lazy to be arsed into installing any? :confused:

          I are n00b.

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          Nish Nishant
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          Part of it is being lazy, the other bit is I am not very tech-savvy when it comes to using gadgets (mostly due to lack of interest). Kinda ironic I guess given that I spend most of my time writing code, including on mobile devices. That said, I did get a Nexus 7 for my son and helped him install several games. So I am familiar with Google's app store.

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          • B Brady Kelly

            I have several important and private documents I would like to try 'scanning' with my digital camera. On or two very quick experiments shows image quality and size are excellent. Two problems I found though were the yellowing of white paper - I was advised not to use the flash, so the the ambient light colour in the room seems to have dominated. What should I do about lighting? Use an artificial electric lamp with a very white light, or use sunlight in a much more brightly lit room? My other problem is crinkles and folds in the documents that clearly show in the 'scans'. One's first though is to place a piece of glass over the document to flatten it, but that brings the risk of reflections. Is there some kind of material I can use in place of glass that is highly transparent, but non-reflective? Something I could get from a photography or art shop, or maybe a printing supply shop?

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            I set the camera on a tripod and use long exposure times. I've succeeded in 'scanning' even nearly unreadable papers using this method. This works even in a dark room, given the exposure times are long enough, and the sensor in your camera is powerful enough. I use a DSLR though, but I presume that even a point-and-shoot camera should be able to produce good results. PS: You'll need to do some post processing. But it will be simple enough, and you could get it done with something like Picasa or Paint .NET.

            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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            • B Brady Kelly

              I have several important and private documents I would like to try 'scanning' with my digital camera. On or two very quick experiments shows image quality and size are excellent. Two problems I found though were the yellowing of white paper - I was advised not to use the flash, so the the ambient light colour in the room seems to have dominated. What should I do about lighting? Use an artificial electric lamp with a very white light, or use sunlight in a much more brightly lit room? My other problem is crinkles and folds in the documents that clearly show in the 'scans'. One's first though is to place a piece of glass over the document to flatten it, but that brings the risk of reflections. Is there some kind of material I can use in place of glass that is highly transparent, but non-reflective? Something I could get from a photography or art shop, or maybe a printing supply shop?

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              You could iron the page if it is badly creased. Or get some of that non-reflective glass/plastic that picture framing shops are always trying to sell. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to use a scanner? I mean printers with scanners are so cheap these days that they are almost disposable.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              • B Brady Kelly

                I have several important and private documents I would like to try 'scanning' with my digital camera. On or two very quick experiments shows image quality and size are excellent. Two problems I found though were the yellowing of white paper - I was advised not to use the flash, so the the ambient light colour in the room seems to have dominated. What should I do about lighting? Use an artificial electric lamp with a very white light, or use sunlight in a much more brightly lit room? My other problem is crinkles and folds in the documents that clearly show in the 'scans'. One's first though is to place a piece of glass over the document to flatten it, but that brings the risk of reflections. Is there some kind of material I can use in place of glass that is highly transparent, but non-reflective? Something I could get from a photography or art shop, or maybe a printing supply shop?

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                Andrew Rissing
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                Could you just take it to a Kinkos or some such and ask for the document to be scanned. It'd probably be pretty cheap. I think you'll get a more professional result out of something like that than doing all this work to use your camera.

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  I have several important and private documents I would like to try 'scanning' with my digital camera. On or two very quick experiments shows image quality and size are excellent. Two problems I found though were the yellowing of white paper - I was advised not to use the flash, so the the ambient light colour in the room seems to have dominated. What should I do about lighting? Use an artificial electric lamp with a very white light, or use sunlight in a much more brightly lit room? My other problem is crinkles and folds in the documents that clearly show in the 'scans'. One's first though is to place a piece of glass over the document to flatten it, but that brings the risk of reflections. Is there some kind of material I can use in place of glass that is highly transparent, but non-reflective? Something I could get from a photography or art shop, or maybe a printing supply shop?

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                  Roger Wright
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                  I've never had much luck with that, Brady. Glare, color shifts, keystoning, or some other damned thing always interferes. The best I've managed so far happened yesterday, when I needed to get a signed document on company letterhead to a government agency in a hurry. The scanner isn't working, the document is in Word format, and the fax machine is too poor quality to serve. So I signed the printed document, photographed my signature with my phone, emailed the picture to myself, cropped, resized, rotated and color-corrected the image on my desktop, then pasted it into the Word document. It looked as good as the original, so I pdf'd it and emailed it off, and no one has questioned its validity. :-D I do plan to keep my signature file locked in my safe, on a thumb drive, and no images of it on my desktop. :suss:

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Maximilien wrote:

                    Also, don't try to iron out the crinkles...

                    This is also sound advice on scrotum care.

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                    Brisingr Aerowing
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                    ChrisElston wrote:

                    Maximilien wrote:

                    Also, don't try to iron out the crinkles...

                    This is also sound advice on scrotum care.

                    Ouch. X|

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      You can use a white-balance correction tool during post-processing to get the yellow color whitened up :-)

                      Regards, Nish


                      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      What could I use for post procesing, that has nice white balance correction?

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        What could I use for post procesing, that has nice white balance correction?

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Gimp is pretty good. Just take Colors / Auto / White Balance and it nearly always does a very good job.

                        Regards, Nish


                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          I have several important and private documents I would like to try 'scanning' with my digital camera. On or two very quick experiments shows image quality and size are excellent. Two problems I found though were the yellowing of white paper - I was advised not to use the flash, so the the ambient light colour in the room seems to have dominated. What should I do about lighting? Use an artificial electric lamp with a very white light, or use sunlight in a much more brightly lit room? My other problem is crinkles and folds in the documents that clearly show in the 'scans'. One's first though is to place a piece of glass over the document to flatten it, but that brings the risk of reflections. Is there some kind of material I can use in place of glass that is highly transparent, but non-reflective? Something I could get from a photography or art shop, or maybe a printing supply shop?

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                          wizardzz
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                          Set the white balance on the camera. I'm shocked at how few people actually do this, or do it in editing.

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                          • W wizardzz

                            Set the white balance on the camera. I'm shocked at how few people actually do this, or do it in editing.

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            Until today I couldn't figure where to set the white balance. It's greyed out in the normal settings, and you have to go into 'deep settings'.

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              Until today I couldn't figure where to set the white balance. It's greyed out in the normal settings, and you have to go into 'deep settings'.

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                              wizardzz
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                              It's typically a very manual feature on most new cameras. I've pulled off some great shots using it. My professional photographer friend showed me that he carried around a white sheet of paper in his pocket. When in strange or bad lighting, he would whip it out at arm's length to set the white balance, then get his picture. I didn't mean it in a mean way, I'm just surprised at the amount of people that discuss the same issue on all sorts of forums, and rarely do people ever mention this feature.

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                              • W wizardzz

                                It's typically a very manual feature on most new cameras. I've pulled off some great shots using it. My professional photographer friend showed me that he carried around a white sheet of paper in his pocket. When in strange or bad lighting, he would whip it out at arm's length to set the white balance, then get his picture. I didn't mean it in a mean way, I'm just surprised at the amount of people that discuss the same issue on all sorts of forums, and rarely do people ever mention this feature.

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                My biggest problem is paralax. I can't seem to get the picture parallel to the document. It always looks skewed; now that is going to take a tripod, which will only happen after payday, or just lots of practice, and a trip to the local print shop for the currently needed scan. It's still interesting though and I will continue as a little hobby.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Can you not back light it somehow? Place it on glass with a light underneath it, then more glass on top? Isn't that kind of how scanners work?

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                                  Septimus Hedgehog
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                                  I was going to mention that as well. Many all-in-one printers can scan images. I've found the quality to be good enough and if it isn't, any half-decent imaging software can make corrections without losing much of the original warts and all.

                                  "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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