I Hate Obsolete Computer Books!
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Not to sound like a hippie, but if you're going to throw them away, at least dump them in the paper bin at your local recycling center. My solution to your problem is I don't buy computer books any longer unless absolutely necessary. The last time that was true was in 2008, when we were starting a new generation of our current product from scratch. I was using C# and WPF for the first time. I bought 2 books at the time based on recommendations from CP folks. I still use both of them occasionally. Recently when I did a project in Linux, and started another in ASP.NET, I was tempted but didn't end up needing books. There's just too much technical material available online for dead tree sources to be worthwhile. Fiction, on the other hand, is another container of expired piscium. Even though I've ruthlessly culled my book collection over the years, I still have an attic full of boxes of books. My 'active' bookshelf is about half new stuff I've bought to read, and half old stuff I've pulled out of the boxes that I want to read again. I have a 'crap' shelf of stuff to sell at the used bookstore or donate that I know I won't ever read again. You'd think in a 2500 square foot old house full of shelves, there'd be space. Unfortunately my wife is an even worse book hoarder than I am.
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
I worked for a scientific company and as more and more journals became available online we came to the conclusion that the hard copies were essentially redundant and the many hundreds of feet of shelf space that they occupied could be used for something else. At phase 1 of the library clearout complete sets of bound journals dating from the 1930's or earlier, were chucked into a skips. Yes that's right, more than one skip was needed. At phase two, some years after that, the library was reduced down to little more than the information scientist's office and all the rest was partitioned off to be converted into conference rooms and offices.
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Preserve them. When your grandsons become your age they can sell the books as antiques. They will be gold then.
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Will Rogers never met me.
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again
That isn't necessarily true. I have had at least one maintenance request where the object code was something like 5 major versions behind. And at least in the case there was no way to use current documentation to figure language API usage. Additionally some books can be used as differentials in discussions. For example when did a specific feature show up? Of course keeping them does require space.
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Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote:
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]
Okay, I suppose they sometimes do. But these won't in my lifetime, I have no space to store them. Off they go...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote:
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]
I suspect those books are only becoming valuable now because at the time of publishing they were fairly rare and are now obviously becoming even rarer. My old programming books (yes, also in pristine condition) are/were fairly common and there is such a broad range of them and with multiple reprints and editions will probably not become sufficiently rare until at least the 4th millennium - at which point the paper will have degraded to dust and the cost of storage will far exceed their value - never mind the cost of shipping them to my cybernetic mind/body/home in orbit around Mars/Saturn/[insert planet/moon of choice here].
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
I have a room with an entire wall of floor to ceiling books. Most of them older than 3 years (by definition, obsolete in the computer science world)... but I still consult them for details and mine some of the obsolete platform code for algorithms that are still useful. My feeling is that documentation (including but not limited to books) is like sex ... even if it is terrible it is still better than nothing at all.
-- Harvey
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on. I guess you can check with your local animal shelter? Last time I checked, newpapers were in abundance. Do you guys recycle out there? My old college text books that are severely outdated are donated to Salvation Army, I let them deal with it.
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Wait a minute; didn't you just buy a new rifle? :cool:
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Wait a minute; didn't you just buy a new rifle? :cool:
Yup. I wonder how many computer books a .243 can pierce? I have just discovered (in a box in the closet) the complete manuals for Turbo Pascal 5.5 Turbo Assembler Turbo Debugger Turbo Prolog 2.0 Paradox 4.0 Altogether, that's about 3' of high quality documentation, which should be a challenge for any caliber. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out
Me too. :(
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Yup. I wonder how many computer books a .243 can pierce? I have just discovered (in a box in the closet) the complete manuals for Turbo Pascal 5.5 Turbo Assembler Turbo Debugger Turbo Prolog 2.0 Paradox 4.0 Altogether, that's about 3' of high quality documentation, which should be a challenge for any caliber. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
Aye, it was sad day I threw out my Turbo Pascal manuals (and discs), but it had to be done.
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Aye, it was sad day I threw out my Turbo Pascal manuals (and discs), but it had to be done.
Alas, there was no room in the box for the complete Quattro manuals, but I found space for ProComm+ along with the disks! :-D Sadly, yes, there does come a time when it becomes necessary to toss out the old, even if the old was better than the new. For solid functionality, reliability, readability, maintainability, and cost effectiveness, nothing offered in the .Net universe comes close to Turbo Pascal.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote:
I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out
Me too. :(
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI have to admit that I wasn't able to get drunk enough to do the deed this weekend; the doomed are stacked on the porch, awaiting a colossal bender to meet their final destination... :sigh:
Will Rogers never met me.
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Alas, there was no room in the box for the complete Quattro manuals, but I found space for ProComm+ along with the disks! :-D Sadly, yes, there does come a time when it becomes necessary to toss out the old, even if the old was better than the new. For solid functionality, reliability, readability, maintainability, and cost effectiveness, nothing offered in the .Net universe comes close to Turbo Pascal.
Will Rogers never met me.
I never used Quattro, but I got a copy somewhere and was unable to sell it. That and VB 2 & 3 -- couldn't give them away. ProComm+ you say? Hmmm... I haven't used that since 2005 or so when I wrote my own scripting language. I don't know whether or not I have a copy any more.
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I have to admit that I wasn't able to get drunk enough to do the deed this weekend; the doomed are stacked on the porch, awaiting a colossal bender to meet their final destination... :sigh:
Will Rogers never met me.
It is definitely our age. These days people Google (or google equivalnt) for information. Who needs books these days? :~
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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Roger Wright wrote:
Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."
Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]
Much more recently, I submit: A Theory of Objects[^] I'd quite like a copy, but...
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Keep the books with general knowledge in them, for example mathematics (how to do Hamiltonian Quadruple, Laplace transformations whatever...), computer science (architectonial secrets of operating systems now forgotten) and so on. Thy rule should be: He who forgets the past is bound to repeat it...
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Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(
Will Rogers never met me.
Recycle. I did it with no less than 100 tech books. But there was one I wish I had kept, so be careful!!! Cheers.