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  • R Roger Wright

    Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    jschell
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    Roger Wright wrote:

    But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again

    That isn't necessarily true. I have had at least one maintenance request where the object code was something like 5 major versions behind. And at least in the case there was no way to use current documentation to figure language API usage. Additionally some books can be used as differentials in discussions. For example when did a specific feature show up? Of course keeping them does require space.

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    • R Roger Wright

      Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      jschell
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      Roger Wright wrote:

      Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

      Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]

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        Roger Wright wrote:

        Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

        Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]

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        Roger Wright
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        Okay, I suppose they sometimes do. But these won't in my lifetime, I have no space to store them. Off they go...

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • J jschell

          Roger Wright wrote:

          Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

          Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]

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          Forogar
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          I suspect those books are only becoming valuable now because at the time of publishing they were fairly rare and are now obviously becoming even rarer. My old programming books (yes, also in pristine condition) are/were fairly common and there is such a broad range of them and with multiple reprints and editions will probably not become sufficiently rare until at least the 4th millennium - at which point the paper will have degraded to dust and the cost of storage will far exceed their value - never mind the cost of shipping them to my cybernetic mind/body/home in orbit around Mars/Saturn/[insert planet/moon of choice here].

          - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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          • R Roger Wright

            Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            H Brydon
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            I have a room with an entire wall of floor to ceiling books. Most of them older than 3 years (by definition, obsolete in the computer science world)... but I still consult them for details and mine some of the obsolete platform code for algorithms that are still useful. My feeling is that documentation (including but not limited to books) is like sex ... even if it is terrible it is still better than nothing at all.

            -- Harvey

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            • R Roger Wright

              Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              wizardzz
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              They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on. I guess you can check with your local animal shelter? Last time I checked, newpapers were in abundance. Do you guys recycle out there? My old college text books that are severely outdated are donated to Salvation Army, I let them deal with it.

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              • R Roger Wright

                Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Wait a minute; didn't you just buy a new rifle? :cool:

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Wait a minute; didn't you just buy a new rifle? :cool:

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Yup. I wonder how many computer books a .243 can pierce? I have just discovered (in a box in the closet) the complete manuals for Turbo Pascal 5.5 Turbo Assembler Turbo Debugger Turbo Prolog 2.0 Paradox 4.0 Altogether, that's about 3' of high quality documentation, which should be a challenge for any caliber. :-D

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    JimmyRopes
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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out

                    Me too. :(

                    The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                    • R Roger Wright

                      Yup. I wonder how many computer books a .243 can pierce? I have just discovered (in a box in the closet) the complete manuals for Turbo Pascal 5.5 Turbo Assembler Turbo Debugger Turbo Prolog 2.0 Paradox 4.0 Altogether, that's about 3' of high quality documentation, which should be a challenge for any caliber. :-D

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Aye, it was sad day I threw out my Turbo Pascal manuals (and discs), but it had to be done.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Aye, it was sad day I threw out my Turbo Pascal manuals (and discs), but it had to be done.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Alas, there was no room in the box for the complete Quattro manuals, but I found space for ProComm+ along with the disks! :-D Sadly, yes, there does come a time when it becomes necessary to toss out the old, even if the old was better than the new. For solid functionality, reliability, readability, maintainability, and cost effectiveness, nothing offered in the .Net universe comes close to Turbo Pascal.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out

                          Me too. :(

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Roger Wright
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                          I have to admit that I wasn't able to get drunk enough to do the deed this weekend; the doomed are stacked on the porch, awaiting a colossal bender to meet their final destination... :sigh:

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            Alas, there was no room in the box for the complete Quattro manuals, but I found space for ProComm+ along with the disks! :-D Sadly, yes, there does come a time when it becomes necessary to toss out the old, even if the old was better than the new. For solid functionality, reliability, readability, maintainability, and cost effectiveness, nothing offered in the .Net universe comes close to Turbo Pascal.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            I never used Quattro, but I got a copy somewhere and was unable to sell it. That and VB 2 & 3 -- couldn't give them away. ProComm+ you say? Hmmm... I haven't used that since 2005 or so when I wrote my own scripting language. I don't know whether or not I have a copy any more.

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              I have to admit that I wasn't able to get drunk enough to do the deed this weekend; the doomed are stacked on the porch, awaiting a colossal bender to meet their final destination... :sigh:

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              It is definitely our age. These days people Google (or google equivalnt) for information. Who needs books these days? :~

                              The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                              Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                              Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                              • J jschell

                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                Nope, technical books never appreciate in value; they just become obsolete and "quaint."

                                Errr...yes they do. http://www.biblio.com/rare-books/Engineering-79-0.html[^]

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                                Rob Grainger
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                                Much more recently, I submit: A Theory of Objects[^] I'd quite like a copy, but...

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  NAANsoft
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                                  Keep the books with general knowledge in them, for example mathematics (how to do Hamiltonian Quadruple, Laplace transformations whatever...), computer science (architectonial secrets of operating systems now forgotten) and so on. Thy rule should be: He who forgets the past is bound to repeat it...

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    charliebear24
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                                    Recycle. I did it with no less than 100 tech books. But there was one I wish I had kept, so be careful!!! Cheers.

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                                      Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      Michael Haines
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                                      I have a slightly used copy of Stimulating Simulations for the VIC 20, if any one is interested. I imagine a bidding war starting now... "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on. I guess you can check with your local animal shelter? Last time I checked, newpapers were in abundance. Do you guys recycle out there? My old college text books that are severely outdated are donated to Salvation Army, I let them deal with it.

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                                        yoni at jefco
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                                        wizardzz wrote:

                                        They might make good kindling, good insulation, bedding for chickens or other animals, wall paper, paper mache, targets for your new rifle, pads for dogs to pee on.

                                        Not to mention emergency toilet tissue... Microsoft Press books are particularly soft.

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          Dammit - I have boxes of them, many in new condition, and I have to be very drunk and thoroughly on a mission to toss one out. I was raised to treat books as sacred objects (items written by L. Ron Hubbard excepted) and to mark one, tear a page corner, unnecessarily bend one - these are unforgivable sins of the cardinal sort. But no one's will ever want to read books on InterDev, VB 5, Oracle 8, and that ilk ever again. I've considered donating them to the library, but last time I asked, they didn't want more books. The one they have keeps them busy enough, I guess. They're too heavy to ship, even if someone wants them, and all are hopelessly outdated. But they're in beautiful shape... Grrr.... It's time for a long night with a bottle in front of me, ended with several trips to the dumpster with a look of grim determination on my mug. I'm going to hate myself in the morning, just like the night I married my ex wife... :(

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          Fatman13CC
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                                          They might be serving well as toilet paper. ;P

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