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  • F Forogar

    The plural of Cheese is either "Cheese" or "Cheeses" depending on context. The plural of "Deer" is Deer" - that's it. However, if the singular of "Teeth" is "Tooth" and "Geese", "Goose" and "Feet", "Foot; why isn't the singular of "Sheep", "Shoop"?

    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Reading through your profile, I have noticed this bit of linguistic ambiguity:

    Now lives in the United States where he is happily married with one son

    Couldn't find a wife and had to marry one son instead?

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      Reading through your profile, I have noticed this bit of linguistic ambiguity:

      Now lives in the United States where he is happily married with one son

      Couldn't find a wife and had to marry one son instead?

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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      Forogar
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      "with" one son, not "to" one son! ;P

      - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        I know you can in some cases refer to varities of cheese (havarti, cheddar) as "cheeses", but can you refer to varities of deer (Philippine, white-tailed) as "deers"? I can't seem to find any references to this usage. Dear me!

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        Matthew Faithfull
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        I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery. Woe to sheep who have no plurality? pluralism? pluralisticness? oh b@&&%£*

        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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        • S Sentenryu

          As a developer whose first language is not English, this really fucks with my life X|

          I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Cheers to being in linguistic arrears. :beer: :beer:

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          • F Forogar

            "with" one son, not "to" one son! ;P

            - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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            AspDotNetDev
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            Hey, it's nothing to be ashamed of, so long as that son is old enough. At least you aren't married with children!

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              Forogar wrote:

              The plural of "Deer" is Deer" - that's it.

              Maybe it depends on who you ask...

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Nouns_with_identical_singular_and_plural:

              The plural deers is listed in some dictionaries. [...] E.g. Collins English Dictionary, 6th ed. (Glasgow: HarperCollins, 2003).

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              Forogar
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              Oh yeah? Well it's wrong, init?

              - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                Hey, it's nothing to be ashamed of, so long as that son is old enough. At least you aren't married with children!

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                Forogar
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                Yes, just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

                - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                • M Matthew Faithfull

                  I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery. Woe to sheep who have no plurality? pluralism? pluralisticness? oh b@&&%£*

                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                  Colin Mullikin
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                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                  I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry DD will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery.

                  FTFY :thumbsup:

                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                  • F Forogar

                    Yes, just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

                    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    Forogar wrote:

                    just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

                    In my opinion there should be no plural form. Children should always be single!

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    • S Sentenryu

                      As a developer whose first language is not English, this really fucks with my life X|

                      I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

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                      That's ok - all the other plurals are consistent and easy to work out: One Mouse, two Mice. One House, two Houses One Bow, two Bows. One Cow, two Kine. One Datum, two Data. One Cactus, two Cacti. One Genius, two Geniuses, or two Genii. One Formula, two Formulae One Elf, two Elves. One Wife, two Wives And A Prison Sentence.

                      If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                        That's ok - all the other plurals are consistent and easy to work out: One Mouse, two Mice. One House, two Houses One Bow, two Bows. One Cow, two Kine. One Datum, two Data. One Cactus, two Cacti. One Genius, two Geniuses, or two Genii. One Formula, two Formulae One Elf, two Elves. One Wife, two Wives And A Prison Sentence.

                        If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                        Chris Losinger
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                        that's what you get when a language adopts words, and their declensions, as-is, from other languages.

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          that's what you get when a language adopts words, and their declensions, as-is, from other languages.

                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          a language adopts words

                          What a lovely way to put it! It sounds so much better than "Steals"! :-D

                          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • M Matthew Faithfull

                            I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery. Woe to sheep who have no plurality? pluralism? pluralisticness? oh b@&&%£*

                            "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                            Roger Wright
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                            Not to worry; the plural of sheep is Wales. Or so I've heard...:suss:

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            • F Forogar

                              The plural of Cheese is either "Cheese" or "Cheeses" depending on context. The plural of "Deer" is Deer" - that's it. However, if the singular of "Teeth" is "Tooth" and "Geese", "Goose" and "Feet", "Foot; why isn't the singular of "Sheep", "Shoop"?

                              - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                              mouse -> mice house -> hice?

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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                I know what you mean. I have figured that because Australians are from Australia, Candians must be from Canadia. However, there seem to be very few who have come to this same conclusion.

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                Adam R Harris
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                                Hey! I'm proudly from Canadia!

                                Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                                • A Adam R Harris

                                  Hey! I'm proudly from Canadia!

                                  Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                                  AspDotNetDev
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                                  That explains why you were able to spell it correctly. ;P

                                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    That explains why you were able to spell it correctly. ;P

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    Adam R Harris
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                                    Well after I brushed the snow off my keyboard and used my heat gun to thaw out the keys spelling it was the easy part ... even considering I didn't take my mits off :-D

                                    Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                                      a language adopts words

                                      What a lovely way to put it! It sounds so much better than "Steals"! :-D

                                      If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Quote:

                                      "Steals"

                                      No, no, just borrowed. Anyway, we let them, Johnny Foreigner that is, use English words for free all the time! Good English words and phrases like: - rendezvous - tsunami - gesundheit - detente - et al - per diem - coup d'etat - wagon - entree - curriculum vitae - the [That last one is a trick, added to confuse and confound.]

                                      - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                      • R Roger Wright

                                        Not to worry; the plural of sheep is Wales. Or so I've heard...:suss:

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                        Forogar
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                                        I heard New Zealand has a plurality of Shoops...

                                        - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          mouse -> mice house -> hice?

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                                          Lost User
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                                          CDP1802 wrote:

                                          house -> hice?

                                          That's how they pronounce it around Mayfair ...

                                          MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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