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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Hey, it's nothing to be ashamed of, so long as that son is old enough. At least you aren't married with children!

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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    Forogar
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    Yes, just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

    - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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    • M Matthew Faithfull

      I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery. Woe to sheep who have no plurality? pluralism? pluralisticness? oh b@&&%£*

      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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      Colin Mullikin
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      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

      I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry DD will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery.

      FTFY :thumbsup:

      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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      • F Forogar

        Yes, just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

        - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Forogar wrote:

        just the one children! Oh damn, what's the singular for that again?

        In my opinion there should be no plural form. Children should always be single!

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        • S Sentenryu

          As a developer whose first language is not English, this really fucks with my life X|

          I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

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          OriginalGriff
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          That's ok - all the other plurals are consistent and easy to work out: One Mouse, two Mice. One House, two Houses One Bow, two Bows. One Cow, two Kine. One Datum, two Data. One Cactus, two Cacti. One Genius, two Geniuses, or two Genii. One Formula, two Formulae One Elf, two Elves. One Wife, two Wives And A Prison Sentence.

          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            That's ok - all the other plurals are consistent and easy to work out: One Mouse, two Mice. One House, two Houses One Bow, two Bows. One Cow, two Kine. One Datum, two Data. One Cactus, two Cacti. One Genius, two Geniuses, or two Genii. One Formula, two Formulae One Elf, two Elves. One Wife, two Wives And A Prison Sentence.

            If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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            Chris Losinger
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            that's what you get when a language adopts words, and their declensions, as-is, from other languages.

            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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            • C Chris Losinger

              that's what you get when a language adopts words, and their declensions, as-is, from other languages.

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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              OriginalGriff
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              Chris Losinger wrote:

              a language adopts words

              What a lovely way to put it! It sounds so much better than "Steals"! :-D

              If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • M Matthew Faithfull

                I fear the vultures of linguistic pendantry will shortly be circling this topic with collective nouns and much arcanery. Woe to sheep who have no plurality? pluralism? pluralisticness? oh b@&&%£*

                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                Roger Wright
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                Not to worry; the plural of sheep is Wales. Or so I've heard...:suss:

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                • F Forogar

                  The plural of Cheese is either "Cheese" or "Cheeses" depending on context. The plural of "Deer" is Deer" - that's it. However, if the singular of "Teeth" is "Tooth" and "Geese", "Goose" and "Feet", "Foot; why isn't the singular of "Sheep", "Shoop"?

                  - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                  Lost User
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                  mouse -> mice house -> hice?

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    I know what you mean. I have figured that because Australians are from Australia, Candians must be from Canadia. However, there seem to be very few who have come to this same conclusion.

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    Adam R Harris
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                    Hey! I'm proudly from Canadia!

                    Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                    • A Adam R Harris

                      Hey! I'm proudly from Canadia!

                      Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                      AspDotNetDev
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                      That explains why you were able to spell it correctly. ;P

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      • A AspDotNetDev

                        That explains why you were able to spell it correctly. ;P

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        Adam R Harris
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                        Well after I brushed the snow off my keyboard and used my heat gun to thaw out the keys spelling it was the easy part ... even considering I didn't take my mits off :-D

                        Don't comment your code - it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          a language adopts words

                          What a lovely way to put it! It sounds so much better than "Steals"! :-D

                          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                          Forogar
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                          "Steals"

                          No, no, just borrowed. Anyway, we let them, Johnny Foreigner that is, use English words for free all the time! Good English words and phrases like: - rendezvous - tsunami - gesundheit - detente - et al - per diem - coup d'etat - wagon - entree - curriculum vitae - the [That last one is a trick, added to confuse and confound.]

                          - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            Not to worry; the plural of sheep is Wales. Or so I've heard...:suss:

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Forogar
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                            I heard New Zealand has a plurality of Shoops...

                            - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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                            • L Lost User

                              mouse -> mice house -> hice?

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                              Lost User
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                              CDP1802 wrote:

                              house -> hice?

                              That's how they pronounce it around Mayfair ...

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                              • A AspDotNetDev

                                I know you can in some cases refer to varities of cheese (havarti, cheddar) as "cheeses", but can you refer to varities of deer (Philippine, white-tailed) as "deers"? I can't seem to find any references to this usage. Dear me!

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                RCoate
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                                My father-in-law is adamant that 1 martini is in fact 2 drinks, otherwise it would be a martinus.

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  I know you can in some cases refer to varities of cheese (havarti, cheddar) as "cheeses", but can you refer to varities of deer (Philippine, white-tailed) as "deers"? I can't seem to find any references to this usage. Dear me!

                                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                  H Brydon
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                                  My understanding was always that: - 2 deer were of the same species but 2 deers were different (eg. 1 mule deer + 1 white tailed deer = 2 deers). - 2 beer are of the same brand, 2 beers are different brands. - 2 sheep are the same breed, 2 sheeps are different breeds. ... but I'm not sure about cheese and cheeses. I also had a manager that used to talk about the softwares on his computer. That was too ugly for me. ... what is the plural of furniture? or hardware?

                                  -- Harvey

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I know you can in some cases refer to varities of cheese (havarti, cheddar) as "cheeses", but can you refer to varities of deer (Philippine, white-tailed) as "deers"? I can't seem to find any references to this usage. Dear me!

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    If you want to. You can also say "mouses" and "sheeps" if you want to, and if all the people you talk to will understand (and not arrogantly view you as an idiot). Such linguistic details aren't law, they're custom.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • R RCoate

                                      My father-in-law is adamant that 1 martini is in fact 2 drinks, otherwise it would be a martinus.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      ITYM "martino". No need to go back as far as ancient Latin, when there weren't any martinis; it's modern Italian (as is the drink). It was named after a guy, though, wasn't it? The North of the Netherlands is, for some obscure (but probably googleable, if I weren't so lazy) reason full of places named after a guy with the same name.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        That's ok - all the other plurals are consistent and easy to work out: One Mouse, two Mice. One House, two Houses One Bow, two Bows. One Cow, two Kine. One Datum, two Data. One Cactus, two Cacti. One Genius, two Geniuses, or two Genii. One Formula, two Formulae One Elf, two Elves. One Wife, two Wives And A Prison Sentence.

                                        If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                                        Sentenryu
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                                        the plural of cow is KINE? are you kidding me? :omg:

                                        I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

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                                        • S Sentenryu

                                          the plural of cow is KINE? are you kidding me? :omg:

                                          I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)

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                                          OriginalGriff
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                                          One of them, yes: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=kine[^] It's an archaic form, not used today except in CCCs. "Cows" is the more common usage.

                                          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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