There are times when I feel like swearing at QA question posters.
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
To be fair I didn't know any of the programming languages I have used in jobs when I was hired for them. And we have hired plenty who didn't either. The idea being that if you hire someone with the ability to program or to learn then you can mold them as you want them rather than picking someone up with bad habits that you don't want. Oh yes, and they are loads cheaper. Yep, that's the main reason. After leaving uni I got a job at Butlins, door security mostly, there was a lad on my induction course thing who had been sent down by a job centre to be a life guard although he couldn't swim at all. That was going to be a little harder to learn on the job.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
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To be fair I didn't know any of the programming languages I have used in jobs when I was hired for them. And we have hired plenty who didn't either. The idea being that if you hire someone with the ability to program or to learn then you can mold them as you want them rather than picking someone up with bad habits that you don't want. Oh yes, and they are loads cheaper. Yep, that's the main reason. After leaving uni I got a job at Butlins, door security mostly, there was a lad on my induction course thing who had been sent down by a job centre to be a life guard although he couldn't swim at all. That was going to be a little harder to learn on the job.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]
By the sounds of the situation the original poster of the question was hired by the company under the assumption he an understanding of the language he was interviewing for. I understand the reason you presented about moulding the person to the style in the company, that was how i gained my first programming position, but I don't think this is the case in this situation.
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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Standing Orders:
When answering a question please:
Read the question carefully.
Understand that English isn't everyone's first language so be lenient of bad spelling and grammar.
If a question is poorly phrased then either ask for clarification, ignore it, or edit the question and fix the problem. Insults are not welcome.
Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
throw the cat under a ladder against a mirror and hope the shards hit the OP ?
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Standing Orders:
When answering a question please:
Read the question carefully.
Understand that English isn't everyone's first language so be lenient of bad spelling and grammar.
If a question is poorly phrased then either ask for clarification, ignore it, or edit the question and fix the problem. Insults are not welcome.
Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
There's your loophole, the guy knows no programming and hence does not qualify as a developer. You can go ahead and insult him. You're welcome ;P
I are n00b.
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Standing Orders:
When answering a question please:
Read the question carefully.
Understand that English isn't everyone's first language so be lenient of bad spelling and grammar.
If a question is poorly phrased then either ask for clarification, ignore it, or edit the question and fix the problem. Insults are not welcome.
Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
This guy's not a developer, so this suggestion doesn't apply. :)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about?
Given from what I have seen as far as coders go (Or any field for that matter...), it does not surprise me even a little. He should be promoted to a manager position immediately.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Make like the cat to calm you down and then stroke some coffee. The level number and type of questions in QA does seem to come and go in patches. Lately there have been very few serious C++ questions I could answer with less than a half day of research. Previously there were loads but the dribble of idiot questions is rather constant. I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy. :wtf:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy. :WTF:
This made my day :laugh: :laugh:
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
OriginalGriff wrote:
stroke the cat?
Leave the cat alone. Otherwise we have a good chance to have another rant in the Lounge saying "Sayonara, chumps" and where the OP is whining about too less understanding for human beeings and cruelty against animals :~.... Stroking the questions' OP would the best solution, IMO at least...?
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
By the way don't underestimate the inspirational power of Bat Poo. This guy[^] wrote an entire novel about bat poo. 900 pages of psychedelic guano[^] for which he won some serious awards. I'd recommend it if it had been any good but unfortunately it was complete ...
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
Cheees, Edo
Each other?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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Let's work to help developers, not make them feel stupid.
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
Cheees, Edo
Edo Tzumer wrote:
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
The idea is that we do not "rush to judgement" that anyone asking a question is less than intelligent because of the way they write in English, which may not be their mother-tongue, or, which, they may have a very low-level mastery of. Personally, I'd like to think that, to the extent I can, I can help a questioner feel accepted, and welcome to CP, while also addressing the technical issue at hand. If a question on QA, causes a negative emotional reaction in you, and you feel like responding with a "negative intent:" it's probably better you don't respond at all, but examine what in yourself your emotional reaction is about. That "benefit of the doubt" principle does not stop you from writing a response to the OP that you can't understand what they are asking about, which can be done in an "emotionally neutral" way. In my mind, it also doesn't preclude confrontation: several times I've finally responded, to an OP, that obviously just "didn't get it," because they had no real "fundamental grounding" in C#, that they need to get a good book on C#, and get a fundamental grounding: that their question, and their responses to comments, and answers given, indicates they are so confused that they need review the basics. I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners :) yrs, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
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Make like the cat to calm you down and then stroke some coffee. The level number and type of questions in QA does seem to come and go in patches. Lately there have been very few serious C++ questions I could answer with less than a half day of research. Previously there were loads but the dribble of idiot questions is rather constant. I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy. :wtf:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
I answered one guy seeking a test case for his cod with a reciepe for fish and chips, he seemed quite happy.
Delightful ! thanks, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
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Edo Tzumer wrote:
What are we supposed to help stupid developers feel?
The idea is that we do not "rush to judgement" that anyone asking a question is less than intelligent because of the way they write in English, which may not be their mother-tongue, or, which, they may have a very low-level mastery of. Personally, I'd like to think that, to the extent I can, I can help a questioner feel accepted, and welcome to CP, while also addressing the technical issue at hand. If a question on QA, causes a negative emotional reaction in you, and you feel like responding with a "negative intent:" it's probably better you don't respond at all, but examine what in yourself your emotional reaction is about. That "benefit of the doubt" principle does not stop you from writing a response to the OP that you can't understand what they are asking about, which can be done in an "emotionally neutral" way. In my mind, it also doesn't preclude confrontation: several times I've finally responded, to an OP, that obviously just "didn't get it," because they had no real "fundamental grounding" in C#, that they need to get a good book on C#, and get a fundamental grounding: that their question, and their responses to comments, and answers given, indicates they are so confused that they need review the basics. I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners :) yrs, Bill
“Thus on many occasions man divides himself into two persons, one who tries to fool the other, while a third, who in fact is the same as the other two, is filled with wonder at this confusion. Thinking becomes dramatic, and acts out the most complicated plots within itself, and, spectator, again, and again, becomes: actor.” From a book by the Danish writer, Paul Moller, which was a favorite of Niels Bohr.
BillWoodruff wrote:
I feel much more like cursing one of the answerers (a veritable answering-machine with an inexhaustible repertoire of off-topic and self-glorifying digressions and obfuscations) on QA, than I do the questioners
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
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I initially came to the US on an H-1B, so yes :-O . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I have just seen the stupidest question probably in the history of Codeproject. I'll summarize it as this isn't a "bash the poster" post, just a nortmal, everyday rant:
"i dont know any programming language" OK, bad start...
"I GOT A DOTNET DEVELOPER (c#) JOB" Oh-oh - this isn't going to end well....
"CAN I LEARN IT EASYLY" :WTF:What I want to say to them is: "Of course you can't you moronic idiot! What the elephant possessed you to lie that much and get a job you know absolutely bat-poo about? F***-Wit!" But of course I can't. And didn't. And now I have a tight ball of anger burning away in me waiting to get out... So should I make a coffee to calm me down, or stroke the cat?
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
Enhance your calm. Enhance your calm... Who am I kidding. When I come across questions like that, I run screaming out of the QA area. Usually there is nobody around, so I don't know if I am actually making a sound :^) . Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
