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What Language Features Do You Miss In C#?

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  • J Jasmine2501

    THROWS, as an optional declaration. I would like the following... public void myfunction(int x) throws ArgumentException, OverflowException { } And, Java needs the other form of throws too, which I'd like to see in C# public void myfunction(int x) throws NONE { } ... for methods which can't throw exceptions.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    But you can't know what may be thrown by something it calls, so I don't see the point.

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      The concept is different.

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      Florian Rappl
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      What kind of concept are you talking about? That the labels are also used from the switch statement? That's certainly true but has nothing to do with goto. But you have been talking about that goto SOME_LABEL is different than goto case WHATEVER - which is wrong. I think you have never seen any assembler output from C code or MSIL from C#, just look at my example which will give you an impression of the MSIL generated from a switch-case in C#.

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        What kind of concept are you talking about? That the labels are also used from the switch statement? That's certainly true but has nothing to do with goto. But you have been talking about that goto SOME_LABEL is different than goto case WHATEVER - which is wrong. I think you have never seen any assembler output from C code or MSIL from C#, just look at my example which will give you an impression of the MSIL generated from a switch-case in C#.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Florian Rappl wrote:

        goto SOME_LABEL is different than goto case WHATEVER

        Yes, of course.

        Florian Rappl wrote:

        assembler output

        Has no bearing on the discussion.

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          Yes! And gosub.

          -------------- TTFN - Kent

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          glennPattonWork3
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          ahhh, the route to HELL :laugh:

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Because I have A Dangerous Mind[^] :-D

            If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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            Espen Harlinn
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            You're forgiven[^] ;)

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            • E Espen Harlinn

              You're forgiven[^] ;)

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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              OriginalGriff
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              That's all I need[^] to know.

              If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                That's all I need[^] to know.

                If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                Espen Harlinn
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                Good, I apologize[^] for the interruption ...

                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                • E Espen Harlinn

                  Good, I apologize[^] for the interruption ...

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Why? What have you done?[^]

                  If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • K Kent Sharkey

                    Sure, it's on another discussion site[^], but that doesn't mean we can't also discuss it here. Personally, while it certainly doesn't fit in the "missing" category, I see them moving it closer and closer to a hybrid C#/JavaScript language with each new version.

                    -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                    rexnfx
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                    Co-routines or a better way to do single threaded faux-parallelism than perverting iterators.

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      Florian Rappl wrote:

                      goto SOME_LABEL is different than goto case WHATEVER

                      Yes, of course.

                      Florian Rappl wrote:

                      assembler output

                      Has no bearing on the discussion.

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                      Florian Rappl
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                      Either you are incapable of understanding this or you just do not want to get this. Your statement that there are 2 gotos is wrong. From a language point of view using goto with some (arbitrary) label and with a case label is equivalent.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        But you can't know what may be thrown by something it calls, so I don't see the point.

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                        Jasmine2501
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                        In Java, every function must declare all potential throws. The compiler looks down the call stack and makes sure that exceptions are either handled or declared in the throws. If not, it's a compilation error. That annoys many Java developers, which is why I think the feature should be optional. If it was optional, we could generate a warning on unhandled exceptions. IT would not be a compilation error like it is in Java. This wouldn't totally prevent any problems, but it would give developers a way to be more explicit about what exceptions can happen. For library designers this would be very helpful.

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                        • T Thornik

                          I wanna have multi-return: (a, b) = SplitComplexNumber(d);

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                          Jasmine2501
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                          The only good feature of Ruby! AWESOME :)

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Why? What have you done?[^]

                            If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                            Espen Harlinn
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                            I'm afraid I've made a shot in the dark[^]

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                              I'm afraid I've made a shot in the dark[^]

                              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Argh! You got me - I'm Blooded[^]

                              If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Argh! You got me - I'm Blooded[^]

                                If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                                Espen Harlinn
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                                Oh, I'm so sorry - this must not be the The Last Time[^] we have such a jolly chat ...

                                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                  Oh, I'm so sorry - this must not be the The Last Time[^] we have such a jolly chat ...

                                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  Murder![^] I'll see you caged[^] for this! :laugh:

                                  If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Murder![^] I'll see you caged[^] for this! :laugh:

                                    If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                                    Espen Harlinn
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                                    This is tuning into high drama - must our farewell [^] turn into such a bittersweet[^] afair. This is worse than A Demon's Fate[^], and now that peace is a Utopia[^] we will only be dealt a hand of sorrow[^] ...

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                      This is tuning into high drama - must our farewell [^] turn into such a bittersweet[^] afair. This is worse than A Demon's Fate[^], and now that peace is a Utopia[^] we will only be dealt a hand of sorrow[^] ...

                                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      Uncle! Uncle! I surrender (before this thread runs off the right hand side of my browser)!

                                      If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Uncle! Uncle! I surrender (before this thread runs off the right hand side of my browser)!

                                        If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                                        Espen Harlinn
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                                        OK - t'was fun though. CG once pointed me in the direction of lacuna coil Trip The Darkness[^] - a bit wild around the eyes, but worth listening too ...

                                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Having a generic type constraint on operators. Something where T : +, -, >, < Or something. Or just provide one easy way to work with numerics, for example: Something where T : numeric After which you can use +, -, >, < etc. by default and T can be int16, int 32, int64, single, byte, double, decimal or an unsigned of those.

                                          It's an OO world.

                                          public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                          public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                          }

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                                          Mike Marynowski
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                                          God yes, there is no reason not to expand generic constrains to include operators, and that would make my life soooooo much easier for so many things I'm working on :(

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