Ego-driven voting system and retaliatory voting/comments. No more.
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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Oh take a teaspoon of concrete and harden up!
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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Ignore it - down votes happen all the time for a huge variety of reasons (just look at the occasional sea of grey that sweeps across QA from time to time for no obvious reason). It's not as if rep points were money! :laugh:
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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Cristian, If I read the comments of that page, I could interpret your comments as "arrogant". Don't get me wrong, your comment is probably correct (don't know this stuff, so can't comment on the contents) and Í'm pretty sure that you don't mean to sound arrogant, but the author doesn't know that. I wouldn't have downvoted you for such an answer myself, but I think I understand why someone would. Hope this helps. (PS: and don't take downvoting too personally, everyone here encounters one voters at times.)
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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So why bring it up in the lounge? It's highly unlikely that the person who down voted you is reading this. I would suspect that the vote came from the author and is most likely because your wording made him think you were accusing him of plagiarism. As it is, your comment was terse and easily misunderstood by a none native English speaker.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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So this is the comment. Got a 1 vote for it. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4491610/PostQuitMessage.aspx[^] Sorry for bringing this (again) to attention, but I think the (down)voting system become far too retaliatory to do any good. About the comment: the article explain a hooking/subclassing system, which calls PostQuitMessage from a dll. PostQuitMessage will execute in the context of the "hooked" process and this will most likely have as a result ending of its message loop. So the unload/unhook/uninit/whatever will close the injected process (abruptly), which is unacceptable. So - is it a playground here or a hi5 forum? or is it a programming one? Because if anyone interested in process injection (and not only) fails to understand my previous comment, then I suppose is not only better *not* to comment or reply on what PostQuitMessage does in this context - but maybe is time to let Windows programming for those who can handle it. Think that many juniors can take this for granted and bomb their own implementation, customers gets crashed etc. Really, this is *not* a subject to trifle with without a gazillion of precautions. Or to vote down just for some unjustified ego reasons. I invite the person that voted 1 for this comment to step forward and explain why there is no value in my comment. This type of charade is happening long enough for me to stop ignoring such things and fight back for my ideas. Really, CP (or for that matter, *any* programming forum) it is supposed to consist of members contributing (keyword !) to a community of programmers. We're not on Facebook here to throw with Likes just because an article or a comment is of a friend. So - where do we want to go next? Facebook style, or coding?
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Claim: the voting system works well in large numbers, but not in small ones. For you: Don't fuss. It's one number out of millions in a database2. Stick to the facts. PostQuitMessage from hook inject dll will close the injected process Would have sufficed. If you need to speculate, use the most honorable (or at least least incriminating) assumption. ----- I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words. 2) If this one is yours and you've sworn to protect it, just don't show it around3 3) Also, occasionally weird order of footnotes.
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Cristian, If I read the comments of that page, I could interpret your comments as "arrogant". Don't get me wrong, your comment is probably correct (don't know this stuff, so can't comment on the contents) and Í'm pretty sure that you don't mean to sound arrogant, but the author doesn't know that. I wouldn't have downvoted you for such an answer myself, but I think I understand why someone would. Hope this helps. (PS: and don't take downvoting too personally, everyone here encounters one voters at times.)
Getting a uni voter for a comment is a sign you are now, officially, a CPer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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Getting a uni voter for a comment is a sign you are now, officially, a CPer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierPete O'Hanlon wrote:
Getting a uni voter for a comment is a sign you are now, officially a CPer
:laugh: So, in fact, if we could tell a uni voter from someone genuinely giving a one vote we could actually add rep points for being more and more a CPer ;P
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Cristian, If I read the comments of that page, I could interpret your comments as "arrogant". Don't get me wrong, your comment is probably correct (don't know this stuff, so can't comment on the contents) and Í'm pretty sure that you don't mean to sound arrogant, but the author doesn't know that. I wouldn't have downvoted you for such an answer myself, but I think I understand why someone would. Hope this helps. (PS: and don't take downvoting too personally, everyone here encounters one voters at times.)
I see your point, but the part of "I hope this is a copy-paste" is clearly referring to the author copying from its own sources of another project in a context where PostQuitMessage is wrong. Not plagiarism. But anyways, voting 1 for a correct statement (I stand for it) is plain dumb. A reply explaining me *why* (why was used, or why am I wrong) would do the service we're all here for. My 0.02.
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So why bring it up in the lounge? It's highly unlikely that the person who down voted you is reading this. I would suspect that the vote came from the author and is most likely because your wording made him think you were accusing him of plagiarism. As it is, your comment was terse and easily misunderstood by a none native English speaker.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierWell, I am not a native speaker either (I'm Romanian). You could be right, but being in a programming forum implies a minimal English level. As for the comment terseness, I can admit that. But, again, a simple reply (You're wrong because of X, I don't get it, What do you mean etc.) would do much better than the current situation.
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Claim: the voting system works well in large numbers, but not in small ones. For you: Don't fuss. It's one number out of millions in a database2. Stick to the facts. PostQuitMessage from hook inject dll will close the injected process Would have sufficed. If you need to speculate, use the most honorable (or at least least incriminating) assumption. ----- I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words. 2) If this one is yours and you've sworn to protect it, just don't show it around3 3) Also, occasionally weird order of footnotes.
peterchen wrote:
I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words.
Bluddy Krauts, ruinin' our green an' pleasant language!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Well, I am not a native speaker either (I'm Romanian). You could be right, but being in a programming forum implies a minimal English level. As for the comment terseness, I can admit that. But, again, a simple reply (You're wrong because of X, I don't get it, What do you mean etc.) would do much better than the current situation.
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That only applies if the author understands your point. If, as I suspect, he has misunderstood your point and he thinks you are calling him a plagiarist, it's easy to see why he would vote 1.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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peterchen wrote:
I've got my first "Spam / Abusive" last week for a mild nazi stereotype joke. Be it known to all that as a German I reserved the universal, unilateral, uninwaiverable1 right to make Nazi jokes. 1) Also, the upmaking of words.
Bluddy Krauts, ruinin' our green an' pleasant language!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
You're just sauer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier -
You're just sauer.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierLet's mix up all our comments with deutschen Wörtern :laugh: :-D :laugh: .
cheers Marco Bertschi
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Let's mix up all our comments with deutschen Wörtern :laugh: :-D :laugh: .
cheers Marco Bertschi
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FizzBuzz - Gary Wheeler
I'm dafür!
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I'm dafür!
I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932:laugh: :laugh:
cheers Marco Bertschi
Software Developer & Founder SMGT Web-Portal CP Profile | Twitter | Facebook | SMGT Web-Portal
FizzBuzz - Gary Wheeler
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I'm not. The 2nd world war was a really terrible war. A lot of good people died back then. My grandfather for instance, died in a German concentration camp... :sigh: .... he fell off a watch tower! :~ OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it... ;P
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932Johnny J. wrote:
OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it...
Wanna bet?
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Johnny J. wrote:
OK; that was really bad - that's why I posted it in the Lounge where people can't downvote it...
Wanna bet?
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierDownvote - No Report abuse - Yes But you wouldn't do that to poor me, would you now? :confused:
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Downvote - No Report abuse - Yes But you wouldn't do that to poor me, would you now? :confused:
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932I wouldn't, but I'm not the only one who reads the messages.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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