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  • J jeron1

    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    . I think that's a rather large overestimate.

    According to this[^] it's pretty close.

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    AspDotNetDev
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    :thumbsup: Indeed. For those who don't want to read that, I'll just paste a snippet:

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    In round numbers there are 7 billion people in the world. Thus, with an estimated 925 million hungry people in the world, 13.1 percent, or almost 1 in 7 people are hungry.

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      Only $30 Billion needed[^]

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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      Matthew Faithfull
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      Something important that should be extremely clear from any reasoned examination of history:- People do not gain enough food, good sanitation, affordable healthcare, free education, peace and security and then go on to get representative government, the rule of law, democratic accountability and a state that is niether oppresive or corrupt. It simply doesn't work that way round. First people get a representative government, usually by sacrificing lots of lives and pretty much everything else on the list. Then if they get lucky they get the rule of law and perhaps democratic accountability. Then if they get really lucky they have a state that is neither oppresive or corrupt. If they can maintain that long enough to have some economic progress and get lucky with their neighbours to go with stability they get peace and security, followed by enough food, followed by sanitation, followed by free education, follwed by affordable healthcare. In other words you can feed a child today and you'll have to go on feeding him and his children and his grandchildren forever, or you can shoot the b!$%^&^%$ who enslaved his people in the first place and he will grow up free and able to feed himself. Most of the time we need to do both and right now we need to look very hard at our own back yard because the basic building blocks of our own civilization are under attack and if we loose those we will not be in a position to help anyone.

      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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        That's what capitalists do, they capitalize things.

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        loctrice
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        OH DO THEY?

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          Only $30 Billion needed[^]

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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          Single Step Debugger
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          Condoms and schools. In that order. This is where the money has to be spend. Not feeding the people like they are cattle.

          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            Assuming 1 billion people are "hungry", $30 billion / 365 days / 1 billion people = $0.08. So, we can feed people for 8 cents a day? I can't buy a grape for that much. About $30/year? I've paid for dinners several times that expensive. I'm not convinced.

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            loctrice
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            Not to mention things that cost a few dollars that would last days: How much does it take to plant stuff? How much does a goat cost? Etc? p.s: I love that donate a goat video. It makes me :laugh:

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              Only $30 billion/year? I guess it's good that the US gives $50 billion/year in foreign aid. :doh:

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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              Chris Losinger
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              and ~$17B of that "foreign aid" is military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid[^]

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              • M Matthew Faithfull

                Something important that should be extremely clear from any reasoned examination of history:- People do not gain enough food, good sanitation, affordable healthcare, free education, peace and security and then go on to get representative government, the rule of law, democratic accountability and a state that is niether oppresive or corrupt. It simply doesn't work that way round. First people get a representative government, usually by sacrificing lots of lives and pretty much everything else on the list. Then if they get lucky they get the rule of law and perhaps democratic accountability. Then if they get really lucky they have a state that is neither oppresive or corrupt. If they can maintain that long enough to have some economic progress and get lucky with their neighbours to go with stability they get peace and security, followed by enough food, followed by sanitation, followed by free education, follwed by affordable healthcare. In other words you can feed a child today and you'll have to go on feeding him and his children and his grandchildren forever, or you can shoot the b!$%^&^%$ who enslaved his people in the first place and he will grow up free and able to feed himself. Most of the time we need to do both and right now we need to look very hard at our own back yard because the basic building blocks of our own civilization are under attack and if we loose those we will not be in a position to help anyone.

                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                loctrice
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                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                you can feed a child today and you'll have to go on feeding him and his children and his grandchildren forever

                so either

                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                or you can shoot the b!$%^&^%$

                or

                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                usually by sacrificing lots of lives

                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                oppresive ot corrupt

                you mispalled that

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                • L Lost User

                  A more relevant number would be the amount of money spent on the military by the countries with the most hunger. It's probably a lot less. Also, among those those countries are probably a lot of countries that actually need their military, because their neighbours are the kind of asshats that would invade if they saw a chance. An other relevant number is how much it would cost to solve hunger in the civilized world, which has been on the rise lately. That could actually be solved (it wouldn't require people to care about other countries, which they never will, not on a serious scale anyway), except in 'Murica because socialism is evil.

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                  Oddly enough if we spent money on *their military, instead of on food aid, I think it would work itself out. *We've no worries, we can bomb them later after all. *their - whoever you chose to insert that needs aid *We've - Americans

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                    Condoms and schools. In that order. This is where the money has to be spend. Not feeding the people like they are cattle.

                    There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    Problem with that first one is that the very poorest intentionally have more children so that their children can support them as they grow older.

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                      Oddly enough if we spent money on *their military, instead of on food aid, I think it would work itself out. *We've no worries, we can bomb them later after all. *their - whoever you chose to insert that needs aid *We've - Americans

                      If it moves, compile it

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                      Lost User
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                      Maybe, but that would still leave us without any real incentive to do so, wouldn't it?

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        Only $30 Billion needed[^]

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        7 billion people X's a $4.29 meal. Yeah it would solve it, for about 5 hours.

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                          Problem with that first one is that the very poorest intentionally have more children so that their children can support them as they grow older.

                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                          wizardzz
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                          Hey, that's how pensions and soc sec work!

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                          • L loctrice

                            OH DO THEY?

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                            djdanlib 0
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                            I see you are strongly in favor of capitalism too!

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                            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                              Only $30 Billion needed[^]

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                              I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance. I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

                              SS => Qualified in Submarines

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                                7 billion people X's a $4.29 meal. Yeah it would solve it, for about 5 hours.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                lol

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  I like to redistribute my wealth, and I think I do a good job of it. It makes me feel good to provide benefit to someone that I think deserves assistance. I hate it when the government redistributes my wealth (socialism), I don't think they do a good job of it. It makes me feel bad when I see that my redistributed wealth goes to people that neither need, deserve or appreciate it.

                                  SS => Qualified in Submarines

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  here here!!

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  • C Colin Mullikin

                                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                    people need to be fed until they can feed themselves.

                                    If they are being fed, they have no motivation to feed themselves.

                                    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                    There is that problem sometimes... unfortunately

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      Problem with that first one is that the very poorest intentionally have more children so that their children can support them as they grow older.

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      This is more a cultural thing. That’s why in China doctors are not allowed to reveal to parents the gender of the baby. Future mothers tend to abort the girls as less useful.

                                      There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                        Sorry, I'll have to respectfully disagree. (Nice link though. I like to call a spade, well, a spade and quickly at that.)

                                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                        ednrg
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                                        I disagree with your disagreement.

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                                          It is an image of such poor quality that, while I can see it is a child, I am only partially certain the child is eating food off of the ground (EDIT: also, there are some bombs falling from the sky). Also, the image has a caption that reads:

                                          Caption:

                                          The Money required to eradicate hunger for everyone in the world has been estimated at 30 billion a year...about as much as the world spends on the military every eight days.

                                          Probably some capitalist decided to capitalize "Money".

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                          Hell, when I was a kid, I ate food off the ground because I knew it horrified my mother. (Give a kid a button to push, and he will damn-well push it.)

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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