Recent departure
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So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).
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So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).
wizardzz wrote:
database guy
That there says it all. Most db people suck a programming and it's the rare exception that doesn't. They're also supreme arrogant asses.
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I'm not sure someone like that would have another job lined up from the get-go, it's more probably that he's just not very good and finds it difficult to work in a high stress team and was looking for a way to escape that looked legit.
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That’s why I stopped posting in the Lounge. These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty. I’m so fucking sensitive to foul language.:sigh:
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Preach it brother! It's f♥cking unbearable being around a♥♥hats that are di♥king around with their s♥itty language.
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So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).
wizardzz wrote:
The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP.
[NSFW LANGUAGE]Is this your VP[^]?[NSFW LANGUAGE]
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Preach it brother! It's f♥cking unbearable being around a♥♥hats that are di♥king around with their s♥itty language.
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Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...
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My company pays expenses to interviewees ... not generally flights since we're in England and it's a small country, but they paid for my petrol costs and a night in a B&B when I came down to interview.
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Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...
Americans and their freedom of expression! Yeah right! You only have handful of dirty words, that's not freedom of EXPRESSION!
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Preach it brother! It's f♥cking unbearable being around a♥♥hats that are di♥king around with their s♥itty language.
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I’m shocked!
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Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...
Да!
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty
:wtf: That's why I come here!
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I thought you’re here for the same reasons as everybody else. Daly CCC’s and the hundreds of beautiful ladies who frequents the Lounge.
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I’m shocked!
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Deal with it :cool: :D
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On a similar note, our team recently got a warning that someone was getting offended about our use of "crude" language, and we suspect it was one of the new people (because everyone else laughs at/joins in our conversations). Wonder if they're trying to pull something similar...but the joke's on them, we're likely moving to our own space soon, then no one will be able to hear us. Until then, we just keep most of our talking to IM, where we can be as "crude" as we want.
Someone complained about my bad language, my boss moved her out of earshot. He did make me promise to try to stop shouting sunshine in the office though. I made a sign to hold up so I now only offend in one direction. Unlike One Direction who offend in all directions without using any bad language at all.
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You hiring?
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"Petrol costs" Nagy - not "Gin costs".
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When is mine? And are you paying interview expenses? ;)
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That’s why I stopped posting in the Lounge. These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty. I’m so fucking sensitive to foul language.:sigh:
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Now now! Swearing is not big, and it's not f**king clever. [edit]Elephanting sunshine tablet autotyping! "Speak" for "Swearing" fixed - OriginalGriff[/edit]
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"Petrol costs" Nagy - not "Gin costs".
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
Isn't Gin Nagys very own petrol? :laugh:
cheers Marco Bertschi
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That’s why I stopped posting in the Lounge. These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty. I’m so fucking sensitive to foul language.:sigh:
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As long as no-one starts saying "duck" in every sentence. Insert punchline here: ............................................................................................
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