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  • W wizardzz

    So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).

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    Mladen Jankovic
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    wizardzz wrote:

    The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP.

    [NSFW LANGUAGE]Is this your VP[^]?[NSFW LANGUAGE]

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      Preach it brother! It's f♥cking unbearable being around a♥♥hats that are di♥king around with their s♥itty language.

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      Nemanja Trifunovic
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      Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...

      utf8-cpp

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        My company pays expenses to interviewees ... not generally flights since we're in England and it's a small country, but they paid for my petrol costs and a night in a B&B when I came down to interview.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        You hiring?

        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...

          utf8-cpp

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          Americans and their freedom of expression! Yeah right! You only have handful of dirty words, that's not freedom of EXPRESSION!

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          • M Mladen Jankovic

            Preach it brother! It's f♥cking unbearable being around a♥♥hats that are di♥king around with their s♥itty language.

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            I’m shocked!

            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              Or you could just use good ol' Cyrillic...

              utf8-cpp

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              Да!

              There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              • K Keith Barrow

                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty

                :wtf: That's why I come here!

                “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                I thought you’re here for the same reasons as everybody else. Daly CCC’s and the hundreds of beautiful ladies who frequents the Lounge.

                There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  I’m shocked!

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  Mladen Jankovic
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                  Deal with it :cool: :D

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                  • L lewax00

                    On a similar note, our team recently got a warning that someone was getting offended about our use of "crude" language, and we suspect it was one of the new people (because everyone else laughs at/joins in our conversations). Wonder if they're trying to pull something similar...but the joke's on them, we're likely moving to our own space soon, then no one will be able to hear us. Until then, we just keep most of our talking to IM, where we can be as "crude" as we want.

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                    Someone complained about my bad language, my boss moved her out of earshot. He did make me promise to try to stop shouting sunshine in the office though. I made a sign to hold up so I now only offend in one direction. Unlike One Direction who offend in all directions without using any bad language at all.

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      You hiring?

                      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                      "Petrol costs" Nagy - not "Gin costs".

                      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                      • W wizardzz

                        ParseThisIntoWordsAndYouGotAnInterview!

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                        When is mine? And are you paying interview expenses? ;)

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          That’s why I stopped posting in the Lounge. These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty. I’m so fucking sensitive to foul language.:sigh:

                          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          Now now! Swearing is not big, and it's not f**king clever. [edit]Elephanting sunshine tablet autotyping! "Speak" for "Swearing" fixed - OriginalGriff[/edit]

                          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            "Petrol costs" Nagy - not "Gin costs".

                            The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                            Isn't Gin Nagys very own petrol? :laugh:

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                            • S Single Step Debugger

                              That’s why I stopped posting in the Lounge. These “Elephant”, “Sunshine” and “Paris” words used all over the place make me feel sad and stressed and dirty. I’m so fucking sensitive to foul language.:sigh:

                              There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                              As long as no-one starts saying "duck" in every sentence. Insert punchline here: ............................................................................................

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • W wizardzz

                                ParseThisIntoWordsAndYouGotAnInterview!

                                Twits[^]

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                                You'd need to import System.Text.RegularExpressions for this. Regex.Replace(Input, "((?<=[a-z])[A-Z]|[A-Z](?=[a-z]))", " $1").Trim() I admit, I cheated a bit and had a quick look online for this, I don't know all combinations of regular expressions off the top of my head! I also don't usually do calls to the Trim method like that, but for the purpose of this, makes it easier. I personally find it easier when they're two lines of code (two different jobs really, one does the split, one does the trim for leading/trailing spaces). Should do the job (obviously needs to be put in a function, probably static/shared. Will also do phrases such as: PeopleInNZLoveSheep...ForFood! But hey, I just got into work this morning (8:30am here in NZ), not looking for an interview, just liked the quick challenge! Best of luck finding a new developer though!

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                                  wizardzz wrote:

                                  The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP.

                                  [NSFW LANGUAGE]Is this your VP[^]?[NSFW LANGUAGE]

                                  more from me | GALex: C++ Library for Advanced Genetic Algorithms

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                                  I love that rant.

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                                    So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).

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                                    Elephant 'im. You don't need such a sunshine in your office, anyway.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      I love that rant.

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                                      Mladen Jankovic
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                                      Ditto. The girl who wrote original email is pretty good with angry words and the interpretation is spot-on.

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                                      • W wizardzz

                                        So, the junior dev under me quit. He went to the manager the week of my wedding (I was scheduled off for 7 working days for honeymoon) and quit, no 2 weeks notice, he wanted out. My manager asked if he could at least stick around until I got back. He said okay, but then didn't, left after my 4th working day gone. The reason given? Language, foul language, in particular that is used by a VP. It apparently upset him and even stressed him out at home (he never did any work or support in off hours, unlike most of us who support 247). We warn new hires, him included, that it can get loud, fast paced, stressful, and we use foul language. None of it sexual in nature, just shit, fuck, damn, etc. On his last day on the job, he sent a letter to all newer hires, asking if it bothered them. Only one replied, a female recent college graduate. She said she doesn't even notice it. Here's my theory. Some background: He moved here, across the country for this job 6 months ago. We flew him in, our expense, to interview him. Theory: He is now relocated, settle in, his wife is settled in, so now he's actually looking for a job he likes, and trying to get sympathy from other new hires to use as a reference. He was a shitty developer who took any sort of criticism horribly. He never tested anything and could not work autonomously. He needed constant detailed lists of what to do, said things were completed ahead of schedule while they were less than half way done and untested. He was a database guy that we were teaching to code, so he knew nothing, but wouldn't admit it, even though almost everything he did was a copy/paste job. The work he did in the last 2 weeks: horrible, had to be rolled back from prod as his claims of testing his changed were lies. Anyways, his little exit strategy is dicking over a lot of people here, making my team look bad, all the way up to our boss below the head honcho (for some reason, he really tried to dick over our VP).

                                        Twits[^]

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                                        He's a junior dev and already married? $10 says he's a good little christian boy, probably had no idea what working at a trading firm is like.

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                                        • L lewax00

                                          On a similar note, our team recently got a warning that someone was getting offended about our use of "crude" language, and we suspect it was one of the new people (because everyone else laughs at/joins in our conversations). Wonder if they're trying to pull something similar...but the joke's on them, we're likely moving to our own space soon, then no one will be able to hear us. Until then, we just keep most of our talking to IM, where we can be as "crude" as we want.

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                                          Matt T Heffron
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                                          Keep in mind, depending on your local laws' definition of a hostile work environment, "crude language" could result in a transfer of significant money from the company to the former employee (and their attorney!)

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