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  • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

    Got that dude! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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        Marco Bertschi
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        Go ahead homey.

        cheers Marco Bertschi


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        • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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          Marco Bertschi
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          Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

          :WTF:

          You don't really know his story, right?

          cheers Marco Bertschi


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          You have absolutely no idea how glad I am that I have no idea at all. - OriginalGriff I'm at peace with the world and myself. - Me

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          • C c2423

            No. $jam=1; if(GotEggs) { GetSix(); } Any competent programmer would ask what GetSix should do.

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            Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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            GetSix(&$jam)
            {
            $jam = 6;
            }

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

              :WTF:

              You don't really know his story, right?

              cheers Marco Bertschi


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              You have absolutely no idea how glad I am that I have no idea at all. - OriginalGriff I'm at peace with the world and myself. - Me

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              Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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              No! Please update me

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                Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

                :WTF:

                You don't really know his story, right?

                cheers Marco Bertschi


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                You have absolutely no idea how glad I am that I have no idea at all. - OriginalGriff I'm at peace with the world and myself. - Me

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                I'll be gentle to start with, just one day's worth...

                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                  No! Please update me

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  Several CPians have suped, few have survived...

                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                  • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                    GetSix(&$jam)
                    {
                    $jam = 6;
                    }

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                    c2423
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                    I don't see that definition in the spec, so you should probably have clarified it with the BA/PM/Client (delete as applicable). If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

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                      I don't see that definition in the spec, so you should probably have clarified it with the BA/PM/Client (delete as applicable). If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      c2423 wrote:

                      If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

                      If were to expect a decent spec before you are expected to start coding, you'd be an idiot.

                      “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                      “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                      Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last couple of weeks.

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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

                        FTFY

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                        • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                          No! Please update me

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                          Marco Bertschi
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                          Please meet Nagy, Hungarian UKIP sympatico. Unemployed for ages (about 1 year when I remember right). Eats every bacon and drinks every Gin in a 500 miles radius. And there was something with Paris, but I actually forgot what it was. Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around. Furthermore he really really really LOVES wand erection. And Justine Beaver.

                          cheers Marco Bertschi


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                          • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            You know when Nagy said you'd be asked to pay for part of his bill? The last person who had to do this founded a new branch of mathematics to cope ...

                            “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                            “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                            Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                            • K Keith Barrow

                              c2423 wrote:

                              If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

                              If were to expect a decent spec before you are expected to start coding, you'd be an idiot.

                              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                              True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

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                                True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

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                                Keith Barrow
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                                c2423 wrote:

                                True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best.

                                False dichotomy: Just "making stuff up" isn't the only other option.

                                “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  c2423 wrote:

                                  True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best.

                                  False dichotomy: Just "making stuff up" isn't the only other option.

                                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                  c2423
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                                  1. Exactly - the above comments implied that he made stuff up to fill the gaps, which wasn't the only option. 1) I am using the term spec loosely, it could just as easily be user story or conversation or vision statement. The conversation would have been better as: "Go to the shop and buy some jam, if they have eggs, buy six." "What are you trying to make?" "I'm baking a jam layered sponge cake" "A jam layered sponge cake would need jam, eggs and flour. Do you also need me to bring some flour?" "Why yes, that would be good, I'd not thought of that." A 1 minute conversation saved the misunderstanding about the eggs, and anticipated a future requirement which would have meant twice as much work in future if I'd not thought things through now. We still don't have a formal spec, but an understanding of the business case, "I'm making a cake" helped to get the best outcome for all parties.
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                                  • M Marco Bertschi

                                    Please meet Nagy, Hungarian UKIP sympatico. Unemployed for ages (about 1 year when I remember right). Eats every bacon and drinks every Gin in a 500 miles radius. And there was something with Paris, but I actually forgot what it was. Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around. Furthermore he really really really LOVES wand erection. And Justine Beaver.

                                    cheers Marco Bertschi


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                                    You have absolutely no idea how glad I am that I have no idea at all. - OriginalGriff I'm at peace with the world and myself. - Me

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                                    Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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                                    Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                    Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around.

                                    More gossip on that! ;)

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                                    • C Chris C B

                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

                                      FTFY

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                                      Marco Bertschi
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                                      Chris C-B wrote:

                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

                                      Now we are close to the truth.

                                      cheers Marco Bertschi


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                                      You have absolutely no idea how glad I am that I have no idea at all. - OriginalGriff I'm at peace with the world and myself. - Me

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                                      • K Keith Barrow

                                        You know when Nagy said you'd be asked to pay for part of his bill? The last person who had to do this founded a new branch of mathematics to cope ...

                                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        Have a :thumbsup:

                                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                        • C c2423

                                          True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          It was a joke.

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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