The problem of being a programmer

Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

No! Please update me

Nagy Vilmos

I'll be gentle to start with, just one day's worth...

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Nagy Vilmos

Several CPians have suped, few have survived...

Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

c2423

I don't see that definition in the spec, so you should probably have clarified it with the BA/PM/Client (delete as applicable). If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

Keith Barrow

c2423 wrote:

If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

If were to expect a decent spec before you are expected to start coding, you'd be an idiot.

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Chris C B

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

FTFY

Marco Bertschi

Please meet Nagy, Hungarian UKIP sympatico. Unemployed for ages (about 1 year when I remember right). Eats every bacon and drinks every Gin in a 500 miles radius. And there was something with Paris, but I actually forgot what it was. Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around. Furthermore he really really really LOVES wand erection. And Justine Beaver.

cheers Marco Bertschi

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Keith Barrow

You know when Nagy said you'd be asked to pay for part of his bill? The last person who had to do this founded a new branch of mathematics to cope ...

“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

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c2423

True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

Keith Barrow

c2423 wrote:

True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best.

False dichotomy: Just "making stuff up" isn't the only other option.

“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

c2423

Exactly - the above comments implied that he made stuff up to fill the gaps, which wasn't the only option. 1) I am using the term spec loosely, it could just as easily be user story or conversation or vision statement. The conversation would have been better as: "Go to the shop and buy some jam, if they have eggs, buy six." "What are you trying to make?" "I'm baking a jam layered sponge cake" "A jam layered sponge cake would need jam, eggs and flour. Do you also need me to bring some flour?" "Why yes, that would be good, I'd not thought of that." A 1 minute conversation saved the misunderstanding about the eggs, and anticipated a future requirement which would have meant twice as much work in future if I'd not thought things through now. We still don't have a formal spec, but an understanding of the business case, "I'm making a cake" helped to get the best outcome for all parties.

Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

Marco Bertschi wrote:

Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around.

More gossip on that! ;)

Marco Bertschi

Chris C-B wrote:

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

Now we are close to the truth.

cheers Marco Bertschi

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Nagy Vilmos

Have a :thumbsup:

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ZurdoDev

It was a joke.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

ZurdoDev

Yes, it appears to be in a recursive post.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Ravi Bhavnani

I'm pretty sure this made its rounds in the 80s. :) /ravi

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OriginalGriff

It probably was, when the dinosaurs told it to each other.

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OpsRoom

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c2423

Your message won't get seen here in particular (and if it does people will insult you as a rule) 1) Nobody here is going to give you general help like you're asking for, you're much better off trying stuff until you have a specific problem, at which point people are normally happy to help 2) When that does happen, make sure you use the correct forum