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  • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

    And that's what makes it go round :-D

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    Syphilis goes round too, doesn't necessarily make it a good thing.

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    • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

      Mum told me Go to the market and get me a bottle of jam. If they have eggs get six I came back with six bottles of jam and she was like "WTF? Why did you buy six bottles of jam" My responds "They have eggs!"

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      Grandpa: When i was your age my momma would send me down to the store with $1 and I would come back with 5 bags of potatoes 2 loaves of bread, 3 bottles of milk a box of tea and 6 eggs. But you cant do that these days. Too many elephanting security cameras. :sigh:

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        Grandpa: When i was your age my momma would send me down to the store with $1 and I would come back with 5 bags of potatoes 2 loaves of bread, 3 bottles of milk a box of tea and 6 eggs. But you cant do that these days. Too many elephanting security cameras. :sigh:

        There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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        Got that dude! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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        • L Lost User

          Syphilis goes round too, doesn't necessarily make it a good thing.

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          Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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          :doh:

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          • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

            Got that dude! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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              Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                If you use the word 'dude' again, you can pay part* of my bar bill. * The gin part.

                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                Marco Bertschi
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                Go ahead homey.

                cheers Marco Bertschi


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                • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

                  :WTF:

                  You don't really know his story, right?

                  cheers Marco Bertschi


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                    No. $jam=1; if(GotEggs) { GetSix(); } Any competent programmer would ask what GetSix should do.

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                    Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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                    GetSix(&$jam)
                    {
                    $jam = 6;
                    }

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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

                      :WTF:

                      You don't really know his story, right?

                      cheers Marco Bertschi


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                      Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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                      No! Please update me

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer wrote:

                        :WTF:

                        You don't really know his story, right?

                        cheers Marco Bertschi


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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        I'll be gentle to start with, just one day's worth...

                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                        • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                          No! Please update me

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Several CPians have suped, few have survived...

                          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                          • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                            GetSix(&$jam)
                            {
                            $jam = 6;
                            }

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                            c2423
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                            I don't see that definition in the spec, so you should probably have clarified it with the BA/PM/Client (delete as applicable). If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

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                              I don't see that definition in the spec, so you should probably have clarified it with the BA/PM/Client (delete as applicable). If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

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                              c2423 wrote:

                              If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

                              If were to expect a decent spec before you are expected to start coding, you'd be an idiot.

                              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last couple of weeks.

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                                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                I'm pretty sure this was posted in the last every couple of weeks.

                                FTFY

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                                • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                                  No! Please update me

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  Please meet Nagy, Hungarian UKIP sympatico. Unemployed for ages (about 1 year when I remember right). Eats every bacon and drinks every Gin in a 500 miles radius. And there was something with Paris, but I actually forgot what it was. Just don't mention her when he or his missus is around. Furthermore he really really really LOVES wand erection. And Justine Beaver.

                                  cheers Marco Bertschi


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                                  • O Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer

                                    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol :wtf:

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    You know when Nagy said you'd be asked to pay for part of his bill? The last person who had to do this founded a new branch of mathematics to cope ...

                                    “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                    “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                    Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                      c2423 wrote:

                                      If you coded it before understanding the spec you'd be an idiot.

                                      If were to expect a decent spec before you are expected to start coding, you'd be an idiot.

                                      “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                      “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                      Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                      c2423
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                                      True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

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                                        True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best. The case above was clearly wrong because he decided to make stuff up when he didn't understand the aim of the spec. However you look at it, formally written spec or not, he needed to clarify first before coding up something useless. Extrapolating to a longer piece of code, you couldn't employ someone like that because they'd go off and code something useless and you'd only find out weeks later.

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                                        c2423 wrote:

                                        True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best.

                                        False dichotomy: Just "making stuff up" isn't the only other option.

                                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                          c2423 wrote:

                                          True, but if the spec is incomplete you really shouldn't be making stuff up and hoping for the best.

                                          False dichotomy: Just "making stuff up" isn't the only other option.

                                          “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                          “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                          Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                          c2423
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                                          1. Exactly - the above comments implied that he made stuff up to fill the gaps, which wasn't the only option. 1) I am using the term spec loosely, it could just as easily be user story or conversation or vision statement. The conversation would have been better as: "Go to the shop and buy some jam, if they have eggs, buy six." "What are you trying to make?" "I'm baking a jam layered sponge cake" "A jam layered sponge cake would need jam, eggs and flour. Do you also need me to bring some flour?" "Why yes, that would be good, I'd not thought of that." A 1 minute conversation saved the misunderstanding about the eggs, and anticipated a future requirement which would have meant twice as much work in future if I'd not thought things through now. We still don't have a formal spec, but an understanding of the business case, "I'm making a cake" helped to get the best outcome for all parties.
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