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    I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    There are many words I could chose to describe this post; insensitive, thoughtless and inappropriate are among them. My mother had to have a mastectomy; as I am sure many members' wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters and sisters have. This is not a subject to make light of. I genuinely pray that you never have to weep for the lose of anyone you hold dear to cancer. Your tears will be hollow and meaningless. Go home.

    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      There are many words I could chose to describe this post; insensitive, thoughtless and inappropriate are among them. My mother had to have a mastectomy; as I am sure many members' wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters and sisters have. This is not a subject to make light of. I genuinely pray that you never have to weep for the lose of anyone you hold dear to cancer. Your tears will be hollow and meaningless. Go home.

      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      Lost User
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      There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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        There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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        Rage
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        Everything is funny, but not with everyone.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          There are many words I could chose to describe this post; insensitive, thoughtless and inappropriate are among them. My mother had to have a mastectomy; as I am sure many members' wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters and sisters have. This is not a subject to make light of. I genuinely pray that you never have to weep for the lose of anyone you hold dear to cancer. Your tears will be hollow and meaningless. Go home.

          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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          Rage
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

          Time to remedy to reality, I think.

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          • L Lost User

            There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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            • R Rage

              Everything is funny, but not with everyone.

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Lost User
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              Rage wrote:

              Everything is funny, but not with everyone.

              I agree. That said, I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses - usually in such a way that let's them wrap themselves in a mantle of 'caring' and 'tolerance'. Meanwhile, I read things on this forum every day that I could choose to find offensive but I realize it's The Lounge and nobody means to offend. To say, 'I don't believe your post is funny.' is one thing. To begin making judgments about the kind of person I am crosses the line. This isn't a breast cancer survivor's forum.

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                Rage wrote:

                Everything is funny, but not with everyone.

                I agree. That said, I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses - usually in such a way that let's them wrap themselves in a mantle of 'caring' and 'tolerance'. Meanwhile, I read things on this forum every day that I could choose to find offensive but I realize it's The Lounge and nobody means to offend. To say, 'I don't believe your post is funny.' is one thing. To begin making judgments about the kind of person I am crosses the line. This isn't a breast cancer survivor's forum.

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                Rage
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                I am 100% with you. Still, a lot of people laughed at my making funny of Armstrong (I used to before I hated him for real), so I guess loosing a ball is less serious than becoming a plancha.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                  Lost User
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                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                  I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post.

                  Well of course you'll take this position. The thought that you could actually offend people is outside the range of possibility, isn't it? Instead of dealing with the fact that you mock alcoholism every single day, a disease that is deadly and likely touches everyone in this forum, you decide to deflect. So instead of dealing with Nagy offending people we'll downshift: 1: We'll deflect to my posting history. 2: We'll deal with the fact that you don't believe I'm sincere. 3: Or you'll take a stand as a true man and "stand by what I said". ^ All that is bullshit deflection. And for the record, I find your posts amusing because despite the alcoholism in my family I can separate between what you write on this forum and what is going on in my life. I realize that when you talk about getting loaded or coming down off a three day bender that you aren't seeking to hurt anyone else or spit on their graves. It's The Lounge, after all, and in that context your posts are obviously intended as humor and are fine. I ask for the same respect. Won't get it - but then I've lived without it up until now.

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                  • L Lost User

                    There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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                    peterchen
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                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic.

                    They'd be wrong though.

                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day.

                    The faults of other men don't make yours any better.

                    ORDER BY what user wants

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                      Rage wrote:

                      Everything is funny, but not with everyone.

                      I agree. That said, I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses - usually in such a way that let's them wrap themselves in a mantle of 'caring' and 'tolerance'. Meanwhile, I read things on this forum every day that I could choose to find offensive but I realize it's The Lounge and nobody means to offend. To say, 'I don't believe your post is funny.' is one thing. To begin making judgments about the kind of person I am crosses the line. This isn't a breast cancer survivor's forum.

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                      Rhys Gravell
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                      MehGerbil wrote:

                      I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses

                      er... that just happens to be human nature. we all do it based on our own thoughts, opinions and prejudices, Just because someone doesn't mean to offend doesn't mean that something they write will be inoffensive to everyone. Grow a pair, suck it up and move on.... after all, does it really bother you that much?

                      Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"

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                      • L Lost User

                        I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]

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                        Lost User
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                        Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

                          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                          Emmanuel Medina
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                          He's got a point,and it seems like he's trying to find middle ground, which you don't seem to be, better to calm down a bit. Also, even if it may be a sensitive topic for some(many?) people the original post is, in any case, slightly innapropiate, take it for what it is.

                          If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez

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                          • L Lost User

                            There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            MehGerbil wrote:

                            The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons

                            I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:

                            MehGerbil wrote:

                            Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

                            I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                              Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Indeed, we are a fickle lot.

                              I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                Indeed, we are a fickle lot.

                                I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

                                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                  BobJanova
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                                  He has a point: why can you joke about continually drinking gin (in fact not just you, there is a communal spirit about the excessive drinking jokes, and not just your drinking either, for example there's MM), when alcoholism is a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of, and a joke about Jolie's breasts is suddenly off limits because breast cancer is also a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of? Don't find it funny? Well, fine; your gin drinking lines get old too for some of us. But jumping on a high horse and claiming the moral high ground because you don't like this particular piece of 'borderline subject matter', when you yourself are the centre of a different piece of it, is hypocritical and not really in the spirit of the Lounge.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7

                                    Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                      MehGerbil wrote:

                                      The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons

                                      I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:

                                      MehGerbil wrote:

                                      Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

                                      I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground...

                                      I'm not the least bit interested in gaining the moral high ground. I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice. That was my only objective.

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                                        Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.

                                        harold aptroot wrote:

                                        the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved

                                        No it's all about who's cracking the joke.

                                        Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                                          Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7

                                          Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                          Rage
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                                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                          John 8:7

                                          You probably meant John 7/7, the pizza delivery ? Mmmhh, bacon pizza.

                                          ~RaGE();

                                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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