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  • L Lost User

    I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]

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    Lost User
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    Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      Emmanuel Medina
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      He's got a point,and it seems like he's trying to find middle ground, which you don't seem to be, better to calm down a bit. Also, even if it may be a sensitive topic for some(many?) people the original post is, in any case, slightly innapropiate, take it for what it is.

      If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez

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      • L Lost User

        There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

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        Pete OHanlon
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        MehGerbil wrote:

        The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons

        I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:

        MehGerbil wrote:

        Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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        • L Lost User

          Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Indeed, we are a fickle lot.

          I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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            Indeed, we are a fickle lot.

            I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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            Dalek Dave
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            La Yoda e Mobile?

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.

              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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              BobJanova
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              He has a point: why can you joke about continually drinking gin (in fact not just you, there is a communal spirit about the excessive drinking jokes, and not just your drinking either, for example there's MM), when alcoholism is a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of, and a joke about Jolie's breasts is suddenly off limits because breast cancer is also a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of? Don't find it funny? Well, fine; your gin drinking lines get old too for some of us. But jumping on a high horse and claiming the moral high ground because you don't like this particular piece of 'borderline subject matter', when you yourself are the centre of a different piece of it, is hypocritical and not really in the spirit of the Lounge.

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              • L Lost User

                I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7

                Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  MehGerbil wrote:

                  The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons

                  I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:

                  MehGerbil wrote:

                  Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.

                  I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                  CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                  Lost User
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground...

                  I'm not the least bit interested in gaining the moral high ground. I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice. That was my only objective.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.

                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved

                    No it's all about who's cracking the joke.

                    Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                      Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7

                      Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                      Rage
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                      Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                      John 8:7

                      You probably meant John 7/7, the pizza delivery ? Mmmhh, bacon pizza.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      • L Lost User

                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground...

                        I'm not the least bit interested in gaining the moral high ground. I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice. That was my only objective.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        MehGerbil wrote:

                        I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice.
                        That was my only objective.

                        Fair enough, but I'm not sure who else you were targeting there.

                        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                        • R Rhys Gravell

                          MehGerbil wrote:

                          I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses

                          er... that just happens to be human nature. we all do it based on our own thoughts, opinions and prejudices, Just because someone doesn't mean to offend doesn't mean that something they write will be inoffensive to everyone. Grow a pair, suck it up and move on.... after all, does it really bother you that much?

                          Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"

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                          Rhys Gravell wrote:

                          .... after all, does it really bother you that much?

                          It's enough to drive me to drink.

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.

                            harold aptroot wrote:

                            the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved

                            No it's all about who's cracking the joke.

                            Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                            Lost User
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                            Good theory, that does explain a lot. I would refine it to "it's all about who the person who's cracking the joke appears to be", because it's not always clear, and PB gets different reactions when he posts as PB than when he posts as popeye boermyth.

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                              Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7

                              Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                              hairy_hats
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                              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                              John 8:7

                              "And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.

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                              • P Pete OHanlon

                                MehGerbil wrote:

                                I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice.
                                That was my only objective.

                                Fair enough, but I'm not sure who else you were targeting there.

                                I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                                Lost User
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                                Nagy, unfortunately, is a stand in for a disproportional amount of scrutiny only because his constant references to drinking made it easy to illustrate the point. I don't mind that he tells drinking jokes and I don't mind that he disagrees with the post being distasteful. That is all fair game. However, it crosses the line when someone who constantly makes lite of [insert serious problem] uses someone else's mocking of [insert serious problem] as a launching pad for self-righteous drivel. People are free to voice their disapproval. Poor taste? Sure. But don't make out that I'm spitting on the graves of the dearly departed or trying to hurt people here that have suffered losses due to this terrible disease.

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                                • H hairy_hats

                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  John 8:7

                                  "And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?

                                  Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                    Good theory, that does explain a lot. I would refine it to "it's all about who the person who's cracking the joke appears to be", because it's not always clear, and PB gets different reactions when he posts as PB than when he posts as popeye boermyth.

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    Yes, I've noticed exactly that too.

                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    popeye boermyth

                                    Missed that one, I wonder if we should ask him to keep a list of aliases to make it easier for us.

                                    Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                                      Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?

                                      Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                      hairy_hats
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                                      The Book of Armaments.

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                                      • H hairy_hats

                                        The Book of Armaments.

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        :thumbsup: I knew I recognised it from somewhere.

                                        Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                                          I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.

                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved

                                          No it's all about who's cracking the joke.

                                          Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln

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                                          hairy_hats
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                                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                          it's all about who's cracking the joke

                                          This.

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