A Moment of Silence, Please
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There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.
MehGerbil wrote:
I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic.
They'd be wrong though.
MehGerbil wrote:
I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day.
The faults of other men don't make yours any better.
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Rage wrote:
Everything is funny, but not with everyone.
I agree. That said, I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses - usually in such a way that let's them wrap themselves in a mantle of 'caring' and 'tolerance'. Meanwhile, I read things on this forum every day that I could choose to find offensive but I realize it's The Lounge and nobody means to offend. To say, 'I don't believe your post is funny.' is one thing. To begin making judgments about the kind of person I am crosses the line. This isn't a breast cancer survivor's forum.
MehGerbil wrote:
I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses
er... that just happens to be human nature. we all do it based on our own thoughts, opinions and prejudices, Just because someone doesn't mean to offend doesn't mean that something they write will be inoffensive to everyone. Grow a pair, suck it up and move on.... after all, does it really bother you that much?
Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"
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I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]
Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.
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I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
He's got a point,and it seems like he's trying to find middle ground, which you don't seem to be, better to calm down a bit. Also, even if it may be a sensitive topic for some(many?) people the original post is, in any case, slightly innapropiate, take it for what it is.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez
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There are many words I could use to describe this post: hypocritical, thoughtless, moronic. I have family members that suffer from alcoholism - something you mock every single day. Given those facts I have two choices: 1: I can realize that your constant mocking of alcoholism is good natured fun appropriate for The Lounge. OR 2: I can be a blow-hard that turns what is meant as fun into a ridiculous self-righteous tirade. I'll stick with #1 for now. You can join me over at #1 when you decide blatant hypocrisy no longer suites you. The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons who forgot to check the name of the forum before posting. Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.
MehGerbil wrote:
The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons
I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:
MehGerbil wrote:
Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.
Indeed, we are a fickle lot.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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Indeed, we are a fickle lot.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierLa Yoda e Mobile?
--------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^] Can you Help?
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I doubt the sincerity of anything in this post. You have a history of borderline subject matter here and if this is your version of humour I feel sorry for you and those around you. I stand by what I said.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
He has a point: why can you joke about continually drinking gin (in fact not just you, there is a communal spirit about the excessive drinking jokes, and not just your drinking either, for example there's MM), when alcoholism is a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of, and a joke about Jolie's breasts is suddenly off limits because breast cancer is also a serious problem that Lounge posters will have experience of? Don't find it funny? Well, fine; your gin drinking lines get old too for some of us. But jumping on a high horse and claiming the moral high ground because you don't like this particular piece of 'borderline subject matter', when you yourself are the centre of a different piece of it, is hypocritical and not really in the spirit of the Lounge.
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I'm weeping over here. See: Great Loss[^]
Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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MehGerbil wrote:
The same goes for the rest of the politically correct, hyper-sensitive morons
I'm not sure that mastectomies qualify for political-correctness, and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground, especially given your next sentence:
MehGerbil wrote:
Respectfully disagreeing is one thing - the attacks are unwarranted.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierPete O'Hanlon wrote:
and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground...
I'm not the least bit interested in gaining the moral high ground. I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice. That was my only objective.
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Flip a coin. Heads? The Lounge laughs at your insensitive joke. Tails? The Lounge turns out to be filled with moralfags and white knights and your joke is condemned. I have been unable to find a model that predicts the outcome any more accurately, and the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved. Further study: determine the relative probabilities.
I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.
harold aptroot wrote:
the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved
No it's all about who's cracking the joke.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
and calling others morons hardly qualifies for the moral high ground...
I'm not the least bit interested in gaining the moral high ground. I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice. That was my only objective.
MehGerbil wrote:
I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice.
That was my only objective.Fair enough, but I'm not sure who else you were targeting there.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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MehGerbil wrote:
I've lost my patience with people who selectively filter offenses
er... that just happens to be human nature. we all do it based on our own thoughts, opinions and prejudices, Just because someone doesn't mean to offend doesn't mean that something they write will be inoffensive to everyone. Grow a pair, suck it up and move on.... after all, does it really bother you that much?
Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"
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I've noticed exactly the same pattern as you.
harold aptroot wrote:
the fact that the same joke can evoke both behaviors if it is used multiple times appears to suggest that an element of randomness really is involved
No it's all about who's cracking the joke.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Hi Brad, I can feel your loss. But don't worry, with todays technology you might not even notice the difference. Joke aside. My mother died last summer in ovarian cancer, it's the nastiest way of dying I can think of beside real torture. But the point is: I didn't take offence. Humour has a purpose, it heals wounds. And to Harold Aptroots very spot on post I might add that it seems okay to joke about things when it's about yourself or your group or nationality, but damn you if you joke about someone else or their group or nationality. Lastly I would like to remind everyone about John 8:7
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
John 8:7
"And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.
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MehGerbil wrote:
I don't like having a double standard applied to my posts and I served notice.
That was my only objective.Fair enough, but I'm not sure who else you were targeting there.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierNagy, unfortunately, is a stand in for a disproportional amount of scrutiny only because his constant references to drinking made it easy to illustrate the point. I don't mind that he tells drinking jokes and I don't mind that he disagrees with the post being distasteful. That is all fair game. However, it crosses the line when someone who constantly makes lite of [insert serious problem] uses someone else's mocking of [insert serious problem] as a launching pad for self-righteous drivel. People are free to voice their disapproval. Poor taste? Sure. But don't make out that I'm spitting on the graves of the dearly departed or trying to hurt people here that have suffered losses due to this terrible disease.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
John 8:7
"And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu..." Oh, sorry, wrong book.
Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Good theory, that does explain a lot. I would refine it to "it's all about who the person who's cracking the joke appears to be", because it's not always clear, and PB gets different reactions when he posts as PB than when he posts as popeye boermyth.
Yes, I've noticed exactly that too.
harold aptroot wrote:
popeye boermyth
Missed that one, I wonder if we should ask him to keep a list of aliases to make it easier for us.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Sound like the right book to me, which book is it?
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
The Book of Armaments.