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  • A AZAD CHOUHAN

    I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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    Marc Clifton
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    Given that we are still discovering new species and life on our own planet, I can't imagine that the universe is not full of an incredible plethora of life. Marc

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    • L Lost User

      It's funny you should ask this question. I was on Altros 5 the other day and some of the Miggles were discussing this same issue... Oh, wait... I've said too much.

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      CHill60
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      Shush!!! The Grand Bobbitt will get upset with us if we let the humans know we're here

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        How big was your sample? And who did you use as a control group? Your personal feeling that "most scientists are arrogant and full of themselves" probably says more about you than it does about scientists. I feel the same way about religionists, but that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        GuyThiebaut
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        Richard Deeming wrote:

        that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!

        They do use the vernacular rather too much and I understand that their UK branch has posters saying 'God hates cigarettes' - kind of makes sense in the UK, what with health and safety and everything...

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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          Richard Deeming wrote:

          that doesn't mean I can assume they're all members of the WBC!

          They do use the vernacular rather too much and I understand that their UK branch has posters saying 'God hates cigarettes' - kind of makes sense in the UK, what with health and safety and everything...

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          Richard Deeming
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          I understand God also hates footstools[^] and 18th century French hairstyles[^].


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Even religious types don't assume humans are the only intelligent life form that exists: they figure a creator exists who by definition can't be human. (Whether they see it like that or not is up to them) From a scientific point of view, it would be very egocentric to assume we were - if would make our little, tiny corner of the universe "special" and we have been trying to avoid assuming that for millennia. In fact, most of our most important discoveries about the universe stem precisely from refusing to believe we are in a "special place" and working out what that means about the rest of it.

            The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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            Richard Deeming
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            Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpr8YA-rOpA[^]


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              Not only are we alone, but YOU are alone in the universe! All of what you see, feel, hear, taste and experience is all due to your imagination. If you wake up, we'll all disappear!

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              Killzone DeathMan
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              Yeah... Wake up NEO, please leave the matrix! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Yeah - we're here to show the rest of the world how to take a good idea, establish a government around that idea, and corrupt it beyond all semblance of it's original form. Wait - that makes us like - the rest of the world.

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                Yes we didn't invent the cluster**** we just perfected it! ;)

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                • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                  I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  No: highly unlikely. Will we ever find out if they exist/meet them? Not at present: we don't have the technology to reach another star in a single life time. Have they visited us here already? Again, unlikely but possible. The upshot of all this and the true answer to your question: we are all alone.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                  • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                    I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                    The chances of life evolving on any given planet are extremely small. So many factors need to within the right ranges; temperature, humidity, radiation levels, etc. However, it is is possible - we have at least one confirmed instance as proof. When you look at the low chances you may be put off but think of how common even a one in a billion chance is when you take into account several trillion occurrences. I had a consultant working for me who said a particular bug would only occur once in a million times and so wasn't important... until I pointed out that the particular code in question was executed several million times a week so the bug was almost guaranteed to occur several times a week! There is, under current theories, an infinite universe. Therefore there are an infinite number of potential galaxies containing millions of stars, some planets in orbit around said stars, some of those planets capable of sustaining life and some of those actually having life. Yeah! We have life - almost guaranteed (statistically)! Now think how long it took us to get to the Moon (despite what DD says). Not just the few days in travelling there, but the research and political maneuvering required to make the attempt in the first place. Then think of how long it took to get robots on Mars. Travelling from one place to another in space is slow and difficult (and very dangerous). Assuming we can develop some kind of space travel that lets us travel to distant stars, in could take years or decades to reach just the nearest ones, centuries to find one capable of sustaining life - and then more centuries to report back that "Hey, we found some funny slug-like things about the size of a house cat - and they speak some dialect of French!" ...or more likely, "Hey, we found some ancient fossils of some funny slug-like things that must have been here a few million years ago!". Not only are the chances of finding an actual civilisation, capable of interaction, still in existence, not immediately hostile to "aliens form outer space" (us), remote. They are infinitesimal. As are their chances of finding us during the period of time we exist as a civilisation (in the broadest sense) overlapping their period of existence. However, I still live in hope that one day, friendly aliens with amazing technology and a willingness to give spaceship rides will show up and say "Hi".

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      No: highly unlikely. Will we ever find out if they exist/meet them? Not at present: we don't have the technology to reach another star in a single life time. Have they visited us here already? Again, unlikely but possible. The upshot of all this and the true answer to your question: we are all alone.

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                      "Have they visited us here already? Again, unlikely but possible." If you would do some research with an unbiased mind you would see that there is plenty of evidence that suggests that Earth has been (is being) visited by extraterrestrial beings.

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

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                        Damn there goes the neighborhood. :)

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                        Hopefully he'll return to a planet run by damn dirty apes!


                        It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com


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                        • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                          I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                          Lost User
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                          I watched a Lady Gaga performance lately and can confirm that we are definitely not alone.

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                            Hopefully he'll return to a planet run by damn dirty apes!


                            It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com


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                            Chris Quinn wrote:

                            Hopefully he'll return to a planet run by damn dirty apes!

                            Monkey boy...yeah I like it!:)

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                              "Have they visited us here already? Again, unlikely but possible." If you would do some research with an unbiased mind you would see that there is plenty of evidence that suggests that Earth has been (is being) visited by extraterrestrial beings.

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              DanielSheets wrote:

                              If you would do some research with an unbiased mind

                              Is why I said what I said. I didn't categorically say that they hadn't only that it was unlikely but not beyond the realms of possibility thought the evidence, of which we are currently aware, would appear to preclude that (I don't count the likes of Daniken and his ilk since they trade in fear mongering and myth). One thing that bothers me is that if they were here and were advanced enough to have conquered interstellar travel, if they didn't want to be seen, they wouldn't be seen. And how come they always appear to land in Asshole, Alabama and not on the White House lawn? It is highly probable that there is life elsewhere in our galaxy.Has it been here? Maybe, maybe not. I'm inclined to think not but would be absolutely delighted to be proved wrong. Prove me wrong.

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                DanielSheets wrote:

                                If you would do some research with an unbiased mind

                                Is why I said what I said. I didn't categorically say that they hadn't only that it was unlikely but not beyond the realms of possibility thought the evidence, of which we are currently aware, would appear to preclude that (I don't count the likes of Daniken and his ilk since they trade in fear mongering and myth). One thing that bothers me is that if they were here and were advanced enough to have conquered interstellar travel, if they didn't want to be seen, they wouldn't be seen. And how come they always appear to land in Asshole, Alabama and not on the White House lawn? It is highly probable that there is life elsewhere in our galaxy.Has it been here? Maybe, maybe not. I'm inclined to think not but would be absolutely delighted to be proved wrong. Prove me wrong.

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                I cant prove you wrong. No one (that I know of) can. Asking why they land in a**hole Alabama and not the white house lawn requires assumptions. You assume that they would differientiate between a**hole and the white house lawn. If they wanted to make themselves known then yeah... The white house lawn. If they dont care either way then anywhere would work. Maybe they dont care. Maybe they think that we are to them what ants are to us. I've heard that argument a lot. "Why is it always toothless hillbillies?" It's not. I know of many physicians, psychologists, scientists, etc... that have had their own various experiences. Lastly, its not up to me to prove you wrong. It makes no difference to me if you believe it or not. I'm just saying do a little research. Dont go just by what the media and movies tell you. I know you didnt specify "toothless hillbillies", but you get my point.

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                                  I cant prove you wrong. No one (that I know of) can. Asking why they land in a**hole Alabama and not the white house lawn requires assumptions. You assume that they would differientiate between a**hole and the white house lawn. If they wanted to make themselves known then yeah... The white house lawn. If they dont care either way then anywhere would work. Maybe they dont care. Maybe they think that we are to them what ants are to us. I've heard that argument a lot. "Why is it always toothless hillbillies?" It's not. I know of many physicians, psychologists, scientists, etc... that have had their own various experiences. Lastly, its not up to me to prove you wrong. It makes no difference to me if you believe it or not. I'm just saying do a little research. Dont go just by what the media and movies tell you. I know you didnt specify "toothless hillbillies", but you get my point.

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                                  I've been interested in this subject since I was a young child and have read countless books on the matter, spoken to hundreds of people and, since the interweb, spent many hours trawling all of the UFO sites, good and bad; hoping to come up with something that would point me in the right direction. So far I haven't found anything that can't be explained in a rational, logical manner. There are, of course, some things that can't be explained. Yet. Doesn't mean I'm going to attribute a flying saucer or alien abduction to everything that can't be currently explained. In short, there is no evidence for you to provide even if you were inclined to back up your earlier statements. Are there aliens? Probably. Have they visited us? Who knows? Maybe. I certainly don't but you seem to be saying you do know. So, what do you know?

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                  • A AZAD CHOUHAN

                                    I have a question in mind from many days.. are we alone in this universe or we have any neighbour new of far from our planet.. is there any astro scientist here who answer this question :confused::confused:

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                                    Only you're alone.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    • J Joe Simes

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                                      The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card

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                                      Duct tape can't fix stupid... but it can muffle the sound.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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