VS 2013 Preview
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting").
According to my knowledge it means "driving pleasure", but I'm pretty sure you knew that. I believe there's a story I haven't heard hidden in that sentence.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
If that is the word, the correct spelling would be "Fahrvergnügen". Of course if he's never seen it in writing he wouldn't know. There is no colloquial hidden meaning behind that word that I know of. But, looking at the VW ad mentioned below, I do agree that german advertisement in general is boring, so you might connect quite a lot of german words with that interpretation (nothing of interest) ;)
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I think they are going to have a nasty surprise when it goes to market. Considering it's a full year-version bump it means that it's also a full price tag refresh for anyone who isn't an MSDN subscriber (and probably not worth the 15 minutes spent installing it even if they are). Sorry Microsoft, Visual Studio is one of the best pieces of software in existence - but I am going to skip this one (that is, unless there is a appropriated priced upgrade option from VS2012). "Farfegnugen" is spot on - I think VS2012.1 had more feature additions than this. Should have kept it in dev for one or two more years, tsk tsk.
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Chinese Proverb] Jonathan C Dickinson (C# Software Engineer)
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One thing it does have that I am interested in is more C++11 support. November CTP included variadic templates and initializer_lists that were buggy and did not have std library changes. With the Visual Studio 2013 preview, the quality of implementation is improved, and the features now have std library support. In addition, with a go-live license - this is the first time you can use variadic templates in production with Visual C++.
Still way behind GCC and CLang, both of which are now C++ 11 feature complete. All we need is CLang integration with the IDE, and we could forget the MS compiler. Its not fit for purpose any more.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997The joy of driving is spelled "Fahrvergnügen" (from a German BMW advertisement). There is another German word for the MSDN quote: "Marketingsprech" (marketing talk). Means a lot of politically correct text and no contents. Engineers should entirely skip these or at least don't expect any added value. The older I get, the better T was.
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
No, not exactly, although every time I boot my Win 8 machine I have to explicitly hit a button to go to the desktop and then wait another 30-60 seconds for Explorer to load. Win 8.1 is bringing back boot-to-desktop and although the button for the start "menu" is there, all it does is bring up the huge full screen super annoying menu. Granted 8.1 is better than it is currently on 8 with vertical scrolling and sorting, but in the current version of Win8, finding my installed programs is not easy, to the point I just made shortcuts to all of them on the desktop which I hate to do.
Ron Beyer wrote:
and then wait another 30-60 seconds for Explorer to load.
I have never had this problem. I'm able to boot, login, click on desktop, and begin doing things all in a total of 30 seconds... :thumbsup:
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997There is a German word "Fahrvegnugen" that was used in car commercials a few years back, but it means "The Joy of Driving"; the word you mentioned does not exist.
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I'm still running VS2008! ...although I should get with the program and go to something newer soon... X|
Albert Holguin wrote:
I'm still running VS2008! ...although I should get with the program and go to something newer soon... X|
Me too, and I don't plan to "upgrade" any time soon. What for?
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Very true -- been running Win8 on my laptop for some time and I don't think I ever use any of the apps and rarely even go to the start screen. I pin'd the apps I used to the taskbar and just use that. I think for a touch device they may be nice, but I haven't found any need for the store apps on a laptop.
Actually, the start screen is a great diversion for my 2 year old son. He loves it. He learned that if he hits the Windows key, it goes to the start screen. Then he messes around in there, and leaves my desktop alone. Great diversion! :-D
I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone - Bjarne Stroustrup The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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If that is the word, the correct spelling would be "Fahrvergnügen". Of course if he's never seen it in writing he wouldn't know. There is no colloquial hidden meaning behind that word that I know of. But, looking at the VW ad mentioned below, I do agree that german advertisement in general is boring, so you might connect quite a lot of german words with that interpretation (nothing of interest) ;)
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Albert Holguin wrote:
I'm still running VS2008! ...although I should get with the program and go to something newer soon... X|
Me too, and I don't plan to "upgrade" any time soon. What for?
Well, the biggest thing would be C++11 standard support...
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Very true -- been running Win8 on my laptop for some time and I don't think I ever use any of the apps and rarely even go to the start screen. I pin'd the apps I used to the taskbar and just use that. I think for a touch device they may be nice, but I haven't found any need for the store apps on a laptop.
I couldn't agree more. I was an early adopter of Windows 8 (when it was released to MSDN partners) and I initially liked it. However, as a functional work system I found Windows 8 to be a productivity buster. The Start Screen / Metro Apps UI is an interesting idea but on a laptop its far more cumbersome to use than just using my Kindle Fire HD or iPod. I think this is a case of letting a PC be a PC and letting a tablet be a tablet. The PC/Tablet hybrid just isn't functional; at least not at this time, in my opinion.
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Well, the biggest thing would be C++11 standard support...
I guess if you're looking for that. To me it doesn't matter.
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I guess if you're looking for that. To me it doesn't matter.
Well, the biggest thing about the new standard is that it includes standard threads... that's really big IMO.
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Well, the biggest thing about the new standard is that it includes standard threads... that's really big IMO.
That's cool, if you're writing C++. Since I'm writing C# for desktop and Web apps, it's non-sequitur to me. :)
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Even while moving Windows every year may seems like a good idea, doing the same with Visual Studio, SQL Server and Windows Server (And any business grade software) may not be the best, given that business user tend to lag waiting for the .1 release. Anyway, i'll probably stick with Visual Studio 2012 unless I really need to move or it supports overloaded constructors in C++.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting"). ---------------- We’re excited to announce that Visual Studio 2013 Preview is now available! The rapid evolution of software development requires a rapid delivery cadence for both the tools and the frameworks you use. Visual Studio 2013 Preview and .NET 4.5.1 Preview provide new capabilities that will help you deliver continuous innovation for your customers, by providing enhanced development capabilities and agile team collaboration tools to deliver in faster cycles. • Create outstanding experiences across Windows devices, including the latest development, design and diagnostics tools for Windows 8.1. • Create modern web applications and services on-premises or in the cloud, with the new additions to Visual Studio and ASP.NET that simplify web development across multiple browsers and devices. • Achieve business agility with an integrated solution that enables shorter cycles, now including agile portfolio management, real-time collaboration with team room and easier access to the information you need directly from the code editor. • Continuously enable quality throughout the development process, with enhanced testing tools that leverage the cloud for enabling new scenarios such as cloud-based load testing. Take advantage of these powerful tools and services by downloading Visual Studio 2013 Preview today! Sincerely, The MSDN Subscriptions Team ------------------ Like Windows 8, this looks like one to skip. Of particular note is that they don't have a line item that reads something like "We listened to our customers, and fixed all that annoying shit you guys mentioned with regards to VS2012."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Farfegnugen is German for "driving enjoyment", first used in an English 1990s Volkswagen commercial.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Looks like it's full of "Farfegnugen" (German for "nothing especially interesting").
According to my knowledge it means "driving pleasure", but I'm pretty sure you knew that. I believe there's a story I haven't heard hidden in that sentence.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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After tweaking (NiceVS etc.) the VS2012 installations I use look passibly like VS2010. No doubt VS2013 will get the same treatment. In this release C++ 11 is the only thing I'm really interested in, anyway (nearly 2 years after the standard was released!). I wonder how long we'll have to wait for C++ 14 support once it is finalised?
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
Looking at the new C++ features[^] in VS2013, their STL has some C++14 features...
Support for these C++14 features:
- "Transparent operator functors"
less<>,greater<>,plus<>,multiplies<>, and so on. make_unique<T>(args...)andmake_unique<T[]>(n)cbegin()/cend(),rbegin()/rend(), andcrbegin()/crend()non-member functions.
Nothing earth shattering, just those bits of C++14 that really should have been in C++11...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!
- "Transparent operator functors"