And hence somebody became a Expert Developer!!!
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Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.
I'll let you know if it happens. Don't hold your breath though.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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Nepotism and cronyism are the simplest ways for the uninitiated, however, that's not always a possible channel. Even then your status will mean nothing outside of that organization. If you're taking the term expert literally, experts generally function with their skill almost without even thinking. Hopefully you're an expert at walking by now. There's a widely publicized concept that it takes 10000 hours of performing an activity to become an expert, and that's not a guarantee. With that out of the way, the short answer is: you will need to practice. -You may get there by just performing your regular weekly job, only if you are lucky enough to get enough variety to keep challenging you. Because if you are writing programs at the same level of difficulty for 5 years (~2000hrs/year * 5yrs => 10000hrs), you will only be an expert at writing that type of basic program. -You will need to constantly seek more challenging tasks. Once you get comfortable at a certain level, improve the difficulty of what you are trying to learn. -Seek mentor's. The resident expert's and build a relationship with them. Learn as much as you can from them. Ask questions. -Teach other's. You'll find out how quickly you understand a topic, based on how well you can intelligibly talk about it. You will get there faster if you actively seek topics that you enjoy, continue to learn about them AND practice. One final piece of wisdom: you will know you are on the right track, when you begin to realize that you don't know as much as you think you do, and you become aware of what knowledge exists that you have not yet learned. That will help you strengthen on your weak areas, and keep you learning. This relates to what an earlier poster said, to paraphrase, if you think you are an expert, then you aren't.
To know and not do, is not yet to know
Thanks Paul. I'm glad to have your inputs. It was very informative.
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Well, I'm looking forward to becoming an expert at some point in my life. I'm nowhere near close being at that stage, and I suspect I never will be. There's always so much more to learn.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierThanks Pete. That's the spirit of learning and growing! But in this process of becoming expert, can you please highlight some important points.
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Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.
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Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.
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I'll let you know if it happens. Don't hold your breath though.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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Don't hold your breath though.
Can you please explain this sentence. :confused:
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I am not yet an expert, but have some experience (20 years about). I did mostly "Learning by doing", attended some classes (mostly Microsoft courses, there was one from IBM for the DB2 system).
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Thanks. Glad to have your inputs.
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sure you need that + all sort of hacks to give you straight access to prod environments + the necessary dose of craziness to run large updates outside of any transaction
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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Thanks Pete. That's the spirit of learning and growing! But in this process of becoming expert, can you please highlight some important points.
I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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There is a box of ice-cream in my fringe for over a week and it isn't been touched
Let's be honest, I wouldn't eat ice cream that had been used as hair gel either...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Lots and lots of alcohol, weed and other illegal stuff.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
Wasn't your brother the one that loved those substances? :rolleyes:
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I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierThanks a lot Pete.
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Yeah my mistake i placed fringe instead of fridge. I guess i am not a morning person, i didn't know that word few moments before....
And you probably meant "freezer" anyway: a "fridge" should be between 3C and 5C, which isn't good for ice cream. :laugh:
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Don't hold your breath though.
Can you please explain this sentence. :confused:
It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.
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Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.
Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
“One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
Ok, its fine Keith. I'm glad that you are responding to my comments. Thanks.
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Access to production! You guys use passwords and other security? You lack courage. :)
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]
I don't! But I am not alone... About 75000 sweet hearts...
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.
