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  • V vonb

    I am not yet an expert, but have some experience (20 years about). I did mostly "Learning by doing", attended some classes (mostly Microsoft courses, there was one from IBM for the DB2 system).

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    Mohammed Hameed
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    Thanks. Glad to have your inputs.

    http://authenticcode.com

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    • G Guirec

      sure you need that + all sort of hacks to give you straight access to prod environments + the necessary dose of craziness to run large updates outside of any transaction

      Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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      dan sh
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      Access to production! You guys use passwords and other security? You lack courage. :)

      "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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      • L Lost User

        So that's where I went wrong: not enough weed.

        Use the best guess

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        There is nothing called enough weed.

        "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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        • M Mohammed Hameed

          Thanks Pete. That's the spirit of learning and growing! But in this process of becoming expert, can you please highlight some important points.

          http://authenticcode.com

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          Pete OHanlon
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          I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.

          I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Argonia wrote:

            There is a box of ice-cream in my fringe for over a week and it isn't been touched

            Let's be honest, I wouldn't eat ice cream that had been used as hair gel either...

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            Argonia
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            Yeah my mistake i placed fringe instead of fridge. I guess i am not a morning person, i didn't know that word few moments before....

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            • D dan sh

              Lots and lots of alcohol, weed and other illegal stuff.

              "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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              Joan M
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              Wasn't your brother the one that loved those substances? :rolleyes:

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                I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.

                I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                Mohammed Hameed
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                Thanks a lot Pete.

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                • A Argonia

                  Yeah my mistake i placed fringe instead of fridge. I guess i am not a morning person, i didn't know that word few moments before....

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  And you probably meant "freezer" anyway: a "fridge" should be between 3C and 5C, which isn't good for ice cream. :laugh:

                  The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                  • M Mohammed Hameed

                    Quote:

                    Don't hold your breath though.

                    Can you please explain this sentence. :confused:

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).

                    “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                    “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                    Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                    • K Keith Barrow

                      It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).

                      “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                      “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                      Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                      Mohammed Hameed
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                      Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.

                      http://authenticcode.com

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                      • M Mohammed Hameed

                        Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.

                        http://authenticcode.com

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                        Keith Barrow
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                        Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."

                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                        • K Keith Barrow

                          Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."

                          “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                          “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                          Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                          Mohammed Hameed
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                          Ok, its fine Keith. I'm glad that you are responding to my comments. Thanks.

                          http://authenticcode.com

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                            Access to production! You guys use passwords and other security? You lack courage. :)

                            "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                            Guirec
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                            I don't! But I am not alone... About 75000 sweet hearts...

                            Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                            • M Mohammed Hameed

                              Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

                              http://authenticcode.com

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                              Expert: Spurt = small ejaculation, ex = past it. OK, so it works better when spoken than written. Edit: I'll accept it is a crap joke, but spam or abusive? Get a life.

                              “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                Wasn't your brother the one that loved those substances? :rolleyes:

                                [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                Not sure if understand what this means but I still take a shot. That's just me with a lot more attractive personality which does not exist due alcohol deficiency in the body.

                                "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Bribery and corruption did it for me.

                                  The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                  How much did it cost you? Where do I pay?

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                                  • M Mohammed Hameed

                                    Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

                                    http://authenticcode.com

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                                    Most great developers don't think they're great. Conversely, most developers who think they're great, aren't. http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ImAPhonyAreYou.aspx[^]


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                      How much did it cost you? Where do I pay?

                                      Cornelius Henning Corruption is not the #1 priority of the Police Commissioner. His job is to enforce the law and fight crime. -- P.B.A. President E. J. Kiernan

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      Brown envelope fulls. In the park, behind the third tree on the left. Password is "Seagull Paté" ;)

                                      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                                        Expert: Spurt = small ejaculation, ex = past it. OK, so it works better when spoken than written. Edit: I'll accept it is a crap joke, but spam or abusive? Get a life.

                                        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        I prefer the version: Ex - Out of date. Spurt - a drip under high pressure.

                                        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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                                        • M Mohammed Hameed

                                          Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

                                          http://authenticcode.com

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                                          S Houghtelin
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                                          Watch, learn and apply. Know your basics. The biggest problems are just collections of smaller issues. I think by now you see that the consensus is that you should always be learning. Some very, very good programmers who I would consider "expert" have replied to your post and stated that they themselves wouldn't call themselves "expert". You will know that you are getting pretty good yourself when other programmers start coming to you for help. My member page says it about the best I can: "The more I develop the more I realize how little I do know and seek to discover cooler, better and faster methods to implementing new ideas."

                                          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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