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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Well, I'm looking forward to becoming an expert at some point in my life. I'm nowhere near close being at that stage, and I suspect I never will be. There's always so much more to learn.

    I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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    Mohammed Hameed
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    Thanks Pete. That's the spirit of learning and growing! But in this process of becoming expert, can you please highlight some important points.

    http://authenticcode.com

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    • M Mohammed Hameed

      Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

      http://authenticcode.com

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      jim lahey
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      I'm an expert when people come to me and beg for help. When I make suggestions I'm being a PITA.

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      • M Mohammed Hameed

        Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

        http://authenticcode.com

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        vonb
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        I am not yet an expert, but have some experience (20 years about). I did mostly "Learning by doing", attended some classes (mostly Microsoft courses, there was one from IBM for the DB2 system).

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        • K Keith Barrow

          I'll let you know if it happens. Don't hold your breath though.

          “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
          “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

          Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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          Mohammed Hameed
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          Quote:

          Don't hold your breath though.

          Can you please explain this sentence. :confused:

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          • V vonb

            I am not yet an expert, but have some experience (20 years about). I did mostly "Learning by doing", attended some classes (mostly Microsoft courses, there was one from IBM for the DB2 system).

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            Mohammed Hameed
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            Thanks. Glad to have your inputs.

            http://authenticcode.com

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            • L Lost User

              So that's where I went wrong: not enough weed.

              Use the best guess

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              dan sh
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              There is nothing called enough weed.

              "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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              • G Guirec

                sure you need that + all sort of hacks to give you straight access to prod environments + the necessary dose of craziness to run large updates outside of any transaction

                Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                dan sh
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                Access to production! You guys use passwords and other security? You lack courage. :)

                "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Argonia wrote:

                  There is a box of ice-cream in my fringe for over a week and it isn't been touched

                  Let's be honest, I wouldn't eat ice cream that had been used as hair gel either...

                  The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                  Argonia
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                  Yeah my mistake i placed fringe instead of fridge. I guess i am not a morning person, i didn't know that word few moments before....

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                  • M Mohammed Hameed

                    Thanks Pete. That's the spirit of learning and growing! But in this process of becoming expert, can you please highlight some important points.

                    http://authenticcode.com

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.

                    I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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                    • D dan sh

                      Lots and lots of alcohol, weed and other illegal stuff.

                      "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                      Joan M
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                      Wasn't your brother the one that loved those substances? :rolleyes:

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        I can do better than that. I can point you to the sage advice of people who've been doing this a while. Have a read of the articles in this[^] section.

                        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
                        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                        Mohammed Hameed
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                        Thanks a lot Pete.

                        http://authenticcode.com

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                        • A Argonia

                          Yeah my mistake i placed fringe instead of fridge. I guess i am not a morning person, i didn't know that word few moments before....

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                          And you probably meant "freezer" anyway: a "fridge" should be between 3C and 5C, which isn't good for ice cream. :laugh:

                          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                          • M Mohammed Hameed

                            Quote:

                            Don't hold your breath though.

                            Can you please explain this sentence. :confused:

                            http://authenticcode.com

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).

                            “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                            “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                            Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                            • K Keith Barrow

                              It's an idiom. It means you'll be waiting a long time/it'll probably never happen (i.e. if you hold you breath whilst waiting for it to happen, you'll suffocate before it does).

                              “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                              “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                              Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                              Mohammed Hameed
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                              Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.

                              http://authenticcode.com

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                              • M Mohammed Hameed

                                Okay. But I'm not waiting to become expert. I just want to keep learning & practising and in this process I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing/following is correct/up to mark or are there any better approaches, ways, and thoughts/opinions from experts.

                                http://authenticcode.com

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                                Keith Barrow
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                                Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."

                                “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  Sorry, we are speaking at crossed purposes. You basically asked what does it take to be a great developer. My original reply meant "It'll let you know when it happens (to me), but you'll be waiting a long time (probably forever)."

                                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                                  Mohammed Hameed
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                                  Ok, its fine Keith. I'm glad that you are responding to my comments. Thanks.

                                  http://authenticcode.com

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                                  • D dan sh

                                    Access to production! You guys use passwords and other security? You lack courage. :)

                                    "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                    Guirec
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                                    I don't! But I am not alone... About 75000 sweet hearts...

                                    Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                                    • M Mohammed Hameed

                                      Generally, it takes lot of efforts to be into a Elite category of developers. Yes, everything comes from experience, experiments, lot of practice, lot of learning, knowledge sharing, etc etc... But I would like to know what's the main turning point in your life when you felt that you are almost a legend developer or you are close to be called an expert. What it has taken you to reach that great level? What were your unique style of learning, experimenting, role models, best practices that have helped you a lot to become an expert? Your inputs will be of highly importance to me and might help me and others to become a better developer. I always feel happy to be a part of a great developer Community:- CodeProject. Thanks all in advance.

                                      http://authenticcode.com

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Expert: Spurt = small ejaculation, ex = past it. OK, so it works better when spoken than written. Edit: I'll accept it is a crap joke, but spam or abusive? Get a life.

                                      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                      • J Joan M

                                        Wasn't your brother the one that loved those substances? :rolleyes:

                                        [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                        dan sh
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                                        Not sure if understand what this means but I still take a shot. That's just me with a lot more attractive personality which does not exist due alcohol deficiency in the body.

                                        "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Bribery and corruption did it for me.

                                          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                          Lost User
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                                          How much did it cost you? Where do I pay?

                                          Cornelius Henning Corruption is not the #1 priority of the Police Commissioner. His job is to enforce the law and fight crime. -- P.B.A. President E. J. Kiernan

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