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  • L Lost User

    Well, the quoted text says "stupid"..

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    ZurdoDev
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    And as I said, stupid and intelligence are not necessarily opposites. Plenty of people with lots of intelligence are pretty dumb.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      And as I said, stupid and intelligence are not necessarily opposites. Plenty of people with lots of intelligence are pretty dumb.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Lost User
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      Ooh you're playing word games. Well, carry on..

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      • L Lost User

        Ooh you're playing word games. Well, carry on..

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        ZurdoDev
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        Not at all. I thought the generalization was based on ignorance and extremism. That's all.

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

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          They're pretty much identical

          What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          DeathByChocolate
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          ryanb31 wrote:

          What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.

          :rolleyes: Haven't you heard of those murderous axe wielding Buddhists? They are renowned for their acts of extreme violence aren't they? ;)

          "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Kill teachers and students who learn stuff[^] Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks. However, my main rant is that they have changed a lot in the 40 odd years since "A Whiter Shade Of Pale".

            --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^] Can you Help?

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            Lost User
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            I'm going to have to side with Abubakar Shekau. I think our current form of education is inherently destructive. Their society would do well to skip the whole 'post modern' phase.

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks.

            Yes, our kids are so clever they believe absolutely nothing at all. Kids who believe nothing at all are the natural tools of tyrants. I got a feeling Abubakar Shekau's people are going to be around long after our people are gone.

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            • D DeathByChocolate

              ryanb31 wrote:

              What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.

              :rolleyes: Haven't you heard of those murderous axe wielding Buddhists? They are renowned for their acts of extreme violence aren't they? ;)

              "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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              ZurdoDev
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              No, but I think I may become violent when people continue to think that all religions are like the fanatic ones being reported. :)

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                No, but I think I may become violent when people continue to think that all religions are like the fanatic ones being reported. :)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                DeathByChocolate
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                Violence is never the answer ... unless the question is 'name an eight letter word beginning with 'v' that means fighting'. :-D

                "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                  Violence is never the answer ... unless the question is 'name an eight letter word beginning with 'v' that means fighting'. :-D

                  "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  Quote:

                  Violence is never the answer

                  Says death by chocolate. :)

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Violence is never the answer

                    Says death by chocolate. :)

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    DeathByChocolate
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                    :-D :thumbsup:

                    "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                    • M Matthew Faithfull

                      Clodetta del Mar wrote:

                      People tend to bind OTHERS to their belief

                      That is of course only a problem if it is abhorrent in your belief system rather than normal and expected. You could impose that belief system on others but then you'd be in contradiction with it yourself. The only problem I have with it is when people fail to grasp that the idea that proselytizing is bad is itself part of a belief system. After all any belief system that denies its own existence is guaranteed to be wrong according to logic, never mind religion. I have known so many post-modernists who claim to be rational and yet are so far up their own chimney that they deny believing in anything, including apparently their own existence. :wtf:

                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                      Emmanuel Medina
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                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                      they deny believing in anything, including apparently their own existence.

                      There is no spoon. And what's the Universe if not a giant spoon?

                      If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez

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                      • L Lost User

                        Ooh you're playing word games. Well, carry on..

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Actually, I just came across the article which validates my point. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/16/upenn-professor-goes-on-blog-rant-over-zimmerman-verdict-claims-god-is-white/[^] :)

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        • D DeathByChocolate

                          Violence is never the answer ... unless the question is 'name an eight letter word beginning with 'v' that means fighting'. :-D

                          "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                          Clodetta del Mar
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                          uncommented 5³+++ if only i could ;-) edit: u really are quoted: i hope it´s ok, when i´m considering to "t-shirt-print" that Statement :-\ ;-)

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                            Actually, I just came across the article which validates my point. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/16/upenn-professor-goes-on-blog-rant-over-zimmerman-verdict-claims-god-is-white/[^] :)

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Lost User
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                            Ah yes, properly cringe-worthy.

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                            • C Clodetta del Mar

                              actually you got it a nutshell... :thumbsup: but, i must Counter again, Person B is - as far as i can judge it - on the "failure trail" maybe some sort of under-employment occured to it? Person B mustn´t think about other´s Needs.. why? does it make your belief System work different if there are tens of hundreds that follow your belief instead of tens of twenty? :doh: :doh: ok, why not founding a new Religion? :confused:

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                              Matthew Faithfull
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                              I understand what you mean but remember success and failure are subjective and usually measured according to the belief system of the religion in question. A person may fail the success test of one belief system and be considered very successful by another. If it's purely a matter of numbers then anyone who doesn't proselytize is clearly going to loose to anyone who does.

                              Clodetta del Mar wrote:

                              why not founding a new Religion?

                              Because religion is not the answer. We do not need to be bound but to be free. In my belief system to be free is to know what is the right thing to do and to be able to do it.

                              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                I understand what you mean but remember success and failure are subjective and usually measured according to the belief system of the religion in question. A person may fail the success test of one belief system and be considered very successful by another. If it's purely a matter of numbers then anyone who doesn't proselytize is clearly going to loose to anyone who does.

                                Clodetta del Mar wrote:

                                why not founding a new Religion?

                                Because religion is not the answer. We do not need to be bound but to be free. In my belief system to be free is to know what is the right thing to do and to be able to do it.

                                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                Clodetta del Mar
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                                i´ll never understand why proselytizing/evangelism is the successor for any Religion... i thought it´s the idea behind that might be distinguishing... if one can call it like that but actually i have no idea...

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                                  i´ll never understand why proselytizing/evangelism is the successor for any Religion... i thought it´s the idea behind that might be distinguishing... if one can call it like that but actually i have no idea...

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                                  Matthew Faithfull
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                                  Consider this. If you had discovered a remedy for death which meant anyone who took it and believed that trees are beautiful would live for an extra 100 years, wouldn't you find it reasonable to reward yourself for the number of people you persuaded to take your remedy and like trees? Consider if you persuaded a thousand people, extending all those lives, wouldn't that be a great excuse for a party or to give you a special badge? It all hinges on whether you believe you are helping people or not. If you believe you are then obviously the more people you help the better. If in reality you're not helping then no one 'outside' will be able to understand why you're excited about the number of people you persuaded to spend an hour staring at a tree. However if your belief system really does help people then many people will adopt variants of it they like better, modify it in a hundred ways and after a few years claim that it was their idea in the first place not yours, hence any really useful belief system will have more 'corrupted' versions of varying degrees than you can name.

                                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Kill teachers and students who learn stuff[^] Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks. However, my main rant is that they have changed a lot in the 40 odd years since "A Whiter Shade Of Pale".

                                    --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^] Can you Help?

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Lawrence Kohlberg identified six sequential steps through which a human's moral judgment can develop. The steps are strictly sequential. You cannot skip a step. The emphasis is on CAN DEVELOP. Most people get stuck around the middle levels. One can only wonder on what step people who kill innocent, unarmed humans in their sleep got stuck - Especially if your target is children?

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                                    There are many things worth living for. There are a few things worth dying for. There are no things worth killing for. --Source lost in the mists of time

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                                    • M Matthew Faithfull

                                      Consider this. If you had discovered a remedy for death which meant anyone who took it and believed that trees are beautiful would live for an extra 100 years, wouldn't you find it reasonable to reward yourself for the number of people you persuaded to take your remedy and like trees? Consider if you persuaded a thousand people, extending all those lives, wouldn't that be a great excuse for a party or to give you a special badge? It all hinges on whether you believe you are helping people or not. If you believe you are then obviously the more people you help the better. If in reality you're not helping then no one 'outside' will be able to understand why you're excited about the number of people you persuaded to spend an hour staring at a tree. However if your belief system really does help people then many people will adopt variants of it they like better, modify it in a hundred ways and after a few years claim that it was their idea in the first place not yours, hence any really useful belief system will have more 'corrupted' versions of varying degrees than you can name.

                                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                      Clodetta del Mar
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                                      that´s really a good projection, i see it... and here we are: you Need to look at yourself rather than checking other´s habitants, isn´t it? but i guess, i Need to think a Moment or two about your Approach... :thumbsup:

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                                      • C Clodetta del Mar

                                        uncommented 5³+++ if only i could ;-) edit: u really are quoted: i hope it´s ok, when i´m considering to "t-shirt-print" that Statement :-\ ;-)

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                                        DeathByChocolate
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                                        Glad you liked it! :-\

                                        "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          And as I said, stupid and intelligence are not necessarily opposites. Plenty of people with lots of intelligence are pretty dumb.

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                          TnTinMn
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                                          And as I said, stupid and intelligence are not necessarily opposites. Plenty of people with lots of intelligence are pretty dumb.

                                          I think you are mistaking the possession of knowledge (facts, figures, etc.) for intelligence. In as-much as a book may contain much knowledge, it does not possess the property of intelligence. Similarly, a person may not possess much knowledge, but may demonstrate great intelligence through their ability to apply their knowledge and acquire additional knowledge. If you educate a fool, you end up with an educated fool. :laugh:

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