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  • D Dan Neely

    Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    Does the judge oppose parents naming their kids Jesus, Moses, or Mohammed?

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      Does the judge oppose parents naming their kids Jesus, Moses, or Mohammed?

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      I agree. Accident seems to have put a whole lot of whacky people together in one courtroom.

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      • D Dan Neely

        Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        He's missing an opportunity here. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

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        • D Dan Neely

          Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            He's missing an opportunity here. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

            Chill _Maxxx_
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            Beat me to it.

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            • D Dan Neely

              Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              How long will it take for the other kids to start calling him "Messy". Wasn't there a study, a while back, that showed that giving kids important-sounding names could have unfortunate effects on their lives?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • D Dan Neely

                Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                No - I'm the messiah, and so's my wife


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                • J Joezer BH

                  We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

                  It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                  ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                  An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" Mad | :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem.

                  Hmm nope. His name actually means "The light of Religion" or "The light of faith". ;)

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                    An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" Mad | :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem.

                    Hmm nope. His name actually means "The light of Religion" or "The light of faith". ;)

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                    Nope, That is indeed what Wikipedia says, so I can understand the feeling you have of it's certainty... :sigh: of course someone wanted his name to sound nicer, which is ... nice. I prefer the truth though. Nur is either Light or Fire. Din means Judgement or Hell. * Further info: Actuall Din is hard to translate to English, there is no word for it. Din means that a person will confront the consequences of his actions, it means that every little thing we do is being noticed, written down, stored on the divine hard drives, so that when the person completes his role and proceeds, he will then be confronted with all his actions and choices, and of course bear the ultimate judgement.

                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                      Baby mommy's stupidity, the judge is trying to save the poor kid from its parents idiocy. Actually sound like both parents should have been sterilised at birth, how can you possibly get into the position where you are in court to decide the brats last name, idiots the pair of them!

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      • J Joezer BH

                        Nope, That is indeed what Wikipedia says, so I can understand the feeling you have of it's certainty... :sigh: of course someone wanted his name to sound nicer, which is ... nice. I prefer the truth though. Nur is either Light or Fire. Din means Judgement or Hell. * Further info: Actuall Din is hard to translate to English, there is no word for it. Din means that a person will confront the consequences of his actions, it means that every little thing we do is being noticed, written down, stored on the divine hard drives, so that when the person completes his role and proceeds, he will then be confronted with all his actions and choices, and of course bear the ultimate judgement.

                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                        In the Arabic language, the words for light and fire are completely seperate. Nur = light Nar = fire In addition the word, Din means Religion. So I'm guessing Wikipedia thought it sounded cooler or something :laugh:

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                          In the Arabic language, the words for light and fire are completely seperate. Nur = light Nar = fire In addition the word, Din means Religion. So I'm guessing Wikipedia thought it sounded cooler or something :laugh:

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                          So I guess his mother called him sunshine then ;)

                          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                            In the Arabic language, the words for light and fire are completely seperate. Nur = light Nar = fire In addition the word, Din means Religion. So I'm guessing Wikipedia thought it sounded cooler or something :laugh:

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                            Din is sometimes used as "religion" however it does not mean religion. The reason is that Din basically means Judgement, and the word Religion in arabic (and hebrew) has the meaning of "a set of rules one must follow" hence the close connection with the word Din

                            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                              Din is sometimes used as "religion" however it does not mean religion. The reason is that Din basically means Judgement, and the word Religion in arabic (and hebrew) has the meaning of "a set of rules one must follow" hence the close connection with the word Din

                              It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                              ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                              That's true, however, in this case, it's meant as religion or faith. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur_al-Din_(disambiguation)[^] It's actually a very common practice in Arabic names and surnames (SomeGoodAdjective or Noun - El Din. For example, Ez el Din, Sayf el Din...) :)

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                                That's true, however, in this case, it's meant as religion or faith. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur_al-Din_(disambiguation)[^] It's actually a very common practice in Arabic names and surnames (SomeGoodAdjective or Noun - El Din. For example, Ez el Din, Sayf el Din...) :)

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                                :thumbsup: Yes, and Sayf el Din is a good example, which means the "The Sword (Sayf) of Judgement"

                                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  Tennessee judge rules infant's name must be changed from 'Messiah'[^] "The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings -- Micah and Mason." I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    No - I'm the messiah, and so's my wife


                                    It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com


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                                    Would she confirm both of those statements?

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                                      Would she confirm both of those statements?

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Well - most nights we scream "Oh God!" at each other :laugh:


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                                      • J Joezer BH

                                        We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

                                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                        Maimonides wrote:

                                        We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture.

                                        I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post. In fact to quote from the item: "The boy's parents were in court because they could not agree on the child's last name" It was the judge who overstepped her jurisdiction by meddling in other matters. The separation of church and state is also a very valuable concept.

                                        Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                                          Maimonides wrote:

                                          We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture.

                                          I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post. In fact to quote from the item: "The boy's parents were in court because they could not agree on the child's last name" It was the judge who overstepped her jurisdiction by meddling in other matters. The separation of church and state is also a very valuable concept.

                                          Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                                          pwasser wrote:

                                          I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post.

                                          You are right, it was not implied, it was LOUD ON THE TABLE:

                                          Dan wrote:

                                          I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

                                          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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