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You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.

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  • J Joezer BH

    We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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    Maimonides wrote:

    We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture.

    I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post. In fact to quote from the item: "The boy's parents were in court because they could not agree on the child's last name" It was the judge who overstepped her jurisdiction by meddling in other matters. The separation of church and state is also a very valuable concept.

    Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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      Maimonides wrote:

      We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture.

      I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post. In fact to quote from the item: "The boy's parents were in court because they could not agree on the child's last name" It was the judge who overstepped her jurisdiction by meddling in other matters. The separation of church and state is also a very valuable concept.

      Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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      pwasser wrote:

      I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post.

      You are right, it was not implied, it was LOUD ON THE TABLE:

      Dan wrote:

      I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Does the judge oppose parents naming their kids Jesus, Moses, or Mohammed?

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        I doubt that a kid with the name of "Jesus" would be picked on as much as a "Messiah".

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        • J Joezer BH

          pwasser wrote:

          I don't think there was a judgement of this kind implied in the original post.

          You are right, it was not implied, it was LOUD ON THE TABLE:

          Dan wrote:

          I'm not sure what to be more apalled by, Judge Powertrip's abuse of her authority; or the baby-mommy's stupidity.

          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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          Well actually I can't see how your reply to me does anything to support your original statement or to refute mine. There has never been any cultural judgement implied. We are allowed to talk about abuse of authority and human stupidity are we not?

          Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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            Well actually I can't see how your reply to me does anything to support your original statement or to refute mine. There has never been any cultural judgement implied. We are allowed to talk about abuse of authority and human stupidity are we not?

            Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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            Yes, we are allowed, we are also allowed to judge this woman's idea of a name as stupidity. We are allowed to be as arrogant as we wish. I don't think there is a right or wrong here, I just don't think its very nice.

            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            • J Joezer BH

              Yes, we are allowed, we are also allowed to judge this woman's idea of a name as stupidity. We are allowed to be as arrogant as we wish. I don't think there is a right or wrong here, I just don't think its very nice.

              It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

              ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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              I suggest you carefully read the original post and the link because you seem to have missed the entire point. It has nothing to do with a chosen name at all. The stupidity is that these two people could not agree on a SECOND name. That's how this began. Now the judge jumped in and messed with the given name which happens to be a popular name today. If she had the jurisdiction to do that then she should be chasing up thousands of others.

              Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                I suggest you carefully read the original post and the link because you seem to have missed the entire point. It has nothing to do with a chosen name at all. The stupidity is that these two people could not agree on a SECOND name. That's how this began. Now the judge jumped in and messed with the given name which happens to be a popular name today. If she had the jurisdiction to do that then she should be chasing up thousands of others.

                Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                Well, I've read it, the second name change it the side story. The item is that when the judge heard the undisputed first name, she ordered it to be changed too, because she said that this name should be reserved to who she believes it should be reserved to. Now, Dan stated that woman is stupid, and I commented that judging someone for the name choice is not very nice. Not sure what you understood, but anyway, this is a far longer thread ;)

                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                • J Joezer BH

                  We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

                  It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                  ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                  Is that his real name? I thought those military leaders took a scary-sounding name deliberately for their command. After reading the subthread about 'din', is it not that the 'judgement' refers to what he's expected to deliver to his enemies?

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                    Is that his real name? I thought those military leaders took a scary-sounding name deliberately for their command. After reading the subthread about 'din', is it not that the 'judgement' refers to what he's expected to deliver to his enemies?

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                    Quote:

                    is it not that the 'judgement' refers to what he's expected to deliver to his enemies?

                    Aye, only enemies :) (not sure how stable is the list of his enemies though)

                    It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                    ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                    • J Joezer BH

                      Well, I've read it, the second name change it the side story. The item is that when the judge heard the undisputed first name, she ordered it to be changed too, because she said that this name should be reserved to who she believes it should be reserved to. Now, Dan stated that woman is stupid, and I commented that judging someone for the name choice is not very nice. Not sure what you understood, but anyway, this is a far longer thread ;)

                      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                      Maimonides wrote:

                      Dan stated that woman is stupid

                      Which woman?

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                        Maimonides wrote:

                        Dan stated that woman is stupid

                        Which woman?

                        Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                        Joezer BH
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                        The mother

                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                        • J Joezer BH

                          The mother

                          It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                          ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                          Well I can see that there are two possible interpretations. I choose to take one and you the other. I think I am happy to observe a truce.

                          Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                            Well I can see that there are two possible interpretations. I choose to take one and you the other. I think I am happy to observe a truce.

                            Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                            Joezer BH
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                            I am not too smart so I didn''t understand what you said, but I get the feeling that you are good companion for a cold one.

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                            :)

                            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                            • J Joezer BH

                              We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

                              It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                              ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                              Accurate or not, I like it. That is one epic name. It's a "rise to power and sow fear among your enemies" kind of name. "Harold" (war chief, army commander) wasn't too bad, but Fire of Hell? Yes please!

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                              • J Joezer BH

                                Well, I've read it, the second name change it the side story. The item is that when the judge heard the undisputed first name, she ordered it to be changed too, because she said that this name should be reserved to who she believes it should be reserved to. Now, Dan stated that woman is stupid, and I commented that judging someone for the name choice is not very nice. Not sure what you understood, but anyway, this is a far longer thread ;)

                                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                I stated she was stupid for saying Messiah was a unique name. I didn't say she was stupid for naming her kid that. I don't think it's a good choice, but the cow-orker of mine who named her kid gunner is probably inflicting her kid with a lot more baggage. Even if the local schools never adopt a zero intelligence policy and expel him over it, anyone seeing that on an application/resume/etc is probably going to think it a prank submission, and even if they know better my gut feeling is a number of anti-gun types will circular file it anyway because they decide it's icky. :sigh:

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  I stated she was stupid for saying Messiah was a unique name. I didn't say she was stupid for naming her kid that. I don't think it's a good choice, but the cow-orker of mine who named her kid gunner is probably inflicting her kid with a lot more baggage. Even if the local schools never adopt a zero intelligence policy and expel him over it, anyone seeing that on an application/resume/etc is probably going to think it a prank submission, and even if they know better my gut feeling is a number of anti-gun types will circular file it anyway because they decide it's icky. :sigh:

                                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  Joezer BH
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                                  5ed :laugh: Perhaps your cow-orker named the kid after Mr. Ole[^]

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                                    5ed :laugh: Perhaps your cow-orker named the kid after Mr. Ole[^]

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                                    I suppose it's possible; but she chose to spell it like JSOP's favorite hobby, not the norse name. :rolleyes:

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      I suppose it's possible; but she chose to spell it like JSOP's favorite hobby, not the norse name. :rolleyes:

                                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                      Joezer BH
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                                      She is "an American", spelling usually isn't among their expertise.

                                      It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                      ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                      • J Joezer BH

                                        We should be cautious when judging other people for their culture. There were very influential people with names that you would think horrible, but other might for some reason find suiting. An example can be Nur-a-Din which means "The fire of hell" :mad: (quite a name), he was however an Arab lord, his direct successor was Saladin who humiliated the crusaders in the battle where he took Jerusalem. I wonder what his mother called him when he was little...

                                        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                        harb nayef
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                                        Nur-a-Din does not mean the fire of hell it means the glow of relegion :)

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          He's missing an opportunity here. He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

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                                          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                          isn;'t the film still banned over the pond?

                                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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