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  • L Lost User

    ChrisElston wrote:

    Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

    There wouldn't be much fuss if this golf course featured Blair and Bush, and looking at it neutrally was Saddam any worse than these two?

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    Wouldn't be as funny with them either. For all he did Hitler has been a figure of fun and ridicule in this country for as long as I can remember, and I would imagine stretching right back to the second world war. Saddam too since the first gulf war. Perhaps it is the moustaches that makes it easier to mock. Interesting quote from the Kurdish fella in the story, pretty much said meh, can't see anything wrong with it. It is the Jewish organisations that are upset.

    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      ChrisElston wrote:

      Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

      There wouldn't be much fuss if this golf course featured Blair and Bush, and looking at it neutrally was Saddam any worse than these two?

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      Herbisaurus
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      It depends where of course. Such a course, built in Iran for example will most likely be demolished by the authorities, followed by the execution of the owner for conspirecy with the western enemy.

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      • J Joezer BH

        Bad in reference to leaders in history is mostly determined by their loss in a battle. Many of history's leaders were murderous bas__rds but since they kept winning over their murderous foes, they are considered glorious, while the other murderous bas__rds are considered murderous bas__rds. Personally I pretty much detest those murderous bas__rds you mentioned, even without the defeat they had taken.

        It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

        ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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        Maimonides wrote:

        Bad in reference to leaders in history is mostly determined by their loss in a battle.

        By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard, and he was quite good at winning battles. He did do a lot of good for the environment though.

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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        • L Lost User

          First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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          Mark_Wallace
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          I think it's very humane, after all, Hitler did need another ball.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Maimonides wrote:

            Bad in reference to leaders in history is mostly determined by their loss in a battle.

            By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard, and he was quite good at winning battles. He did do a lot of good for the environment though.

            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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            Joezer BH
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            The interesting thing about Genghis was that he was religiously tolerant and had Muslim, Christian & Buddhist consultants.

            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              I think it's very humane, after all, Hitler did need another ball.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Beat me to it. However, a variation of your sig would be appropriate here as well.

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              • L Lost User

                Maimonides wrote:

                Bad in reference to leaders in history is mostly determined by their loss in a battle.

                By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard, and he was quite good at winning battles. He did do a lot of good for the environment though.

                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                ChrisElston wrote:

                By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard

                Do you mind, he is a relative of mine.

                PB 369,783 wrote:

                I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Beat me to it. However, a variation of your sig would be appropriate here as well.

                  Chill _Maxxx_
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                  cptKoala
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                  How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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                    ChrisElston wrote:

                    By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard

                    Do you mind, he is a relative of mine.

                    PB 369,783 wrote:

                    I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                    Sorry, I should have said he was a wanker, a tosspot, a very tiny piece of turd. The Private Life Of Genghis Kahn[^]

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    • C cptKoala

                      How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      Seems reasonable to me. Although, I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well. You don't want your niblick mashied, especially if you get caught in the cleeks.

                      Chill _Maxxx_
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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Seems reasonable to me. Although, I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well. You don't want your niblick mashied, especially if you get caught in the cleeks.

                        Chill _Maxxx_
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                        cptKoala
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well

                        New player soon to emerge on the golfing scene... Kitten Woods

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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well

                          New player soon to emerge on the golfing scene... Kitten Woods

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                          I think Kitten Woods already turns up at every Ryder Cup in place of Tiger.

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                          • C cptKoala

                            How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Everyone's kid sister is glad you avoided using the word "wood", there.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              ChrisElston wrote:

                              Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                              There wouldn't be much fuss if this golf course featured Blair and Bush, and looking at it neutrally was Saddam any worse than these two?

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                              Rob Philpott
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                              Neither Bush or Blair pulled people out of Congress/Parliament to shoot them in the head, so I'd say probably not. I'd make an exception for Ed Balls, however.

                              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                What is the alternative? Boost them as Bogeymen, out to get children? Wallow in their crimes against their fellow men? (The History Channel has that covered, pretty much) Or ignore them, and let them pass out of memory; save for the very few historians? (Who remembers Pol Pot these days, or Yakubu Gowon, or Mengistu Haile Mariam, or Leopold II of Belgium, or Vlad the Impaler, or...) Remember what historians say: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it".

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                                • R Rob Philpott

                                  Neither Bush or Blair pulled people out of Congress/Parliament to shoot them in the head, so I'd say probably not. I'd make an exception for Ed Balls, however.

                                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                  What about David Kelly? At least Saddam had the balls to do his own dirty work.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    What about David Kelly? At least Saddam had the balls to do his own dirty work.

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                                    Rob Philpott
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                                    Well, conspiracies aside that was suicide. And yes, a good man ended up dead and the previous Government did have blood on its hands, maybe. But I still don't think there is any comparison between elected democratic leaders and a tyrannical dictator with a penchant for killing his own people.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      What is the alternative? Boost them as Bogeymen, out to get children? Wallow in their crimes against their fellow men? (The History Channel has that covered, pretty much) Or ignore them, and let them pass out of memory; save for the very few historians? (Who remembers Pol Pot these days, or Yakubu Gowon, or Mengistu Haile Mariam, or Leopold II of Belgium, or Vlad the Impaler, or...) Remember what historians say: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it".

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                                      CPallini
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                                      Well Put (or Put Well if you don't mind the order)!

                                      Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                                        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                        Richard Deeming
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                                        ChrisElston wrote:

                                        Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius.

                                        Just so long as you don't have voice dialling on your mobile phone turned on. :rolleyes:


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                        • M Mark_Wallace

                                          Everyone's kid sister is glad you avoided using the word "wood", there.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          cptKoala
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                                          Yes, and I shall refrain from making the obvious avian references :-D

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