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  • L Lost User

    Maimonides wrote:

    Bad in reference to leaders in history is mostly determined by their loss in a battle.

    By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard, and he was quite good at winning battles. He did do a lot of good for the environment though.

    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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    ChrisElston wrote:

    By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard

    Do you mind, he is a relative of mine.

    PB 369,783 wrote:

    I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Beat me to it. However, a variation of your sig would be appropriate here as well.

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      How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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        ChrisElston wrote:

        By all accounts Genghis was a right bastard

        Do you mind, he is a relative of mine.

        PB 369,783 wrote:

        I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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        Sorry, I should have said he was a wanker, a tosspot, a very tiny piece of turd. The Private Life Of Genghis Kahn[^]

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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        • C cptKoala

          How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Seems reasonable to me. Although, I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well. You don't want your niblick mashied, especially if you get caught in the cleeks.

          Chill _Maxxx_
          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Seems reasonable to me. Although, I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well. You don't want your niblick mashied, especially if you get caught in the cleeks.

            Chill _Maxxx_
            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well

            New player soon to emerge on the golfing scene... Kitten Woods

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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              I think a quick hit with the Mashie Niblick would do the job just as well

              New player soon to emerge on the golfing scene... Kitten Woods

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              I think Kitten Woods already turns up at every Ryder Cup in place of Tiger.

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                How so? As in "... pass me the putter"?

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Everyone's kid sister is glad you avoided using the word "wood", there.

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                • L Lost User

                  ChrisElston wrote:

                  Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                  There wouldn't be much fuss if this golf course featured Blair and Bush, and looking at it neutrally was Saddam any worse than these two?

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                  Neither Bush or Blair pulled people out of Congress/Parliament to shoot them in the head, so I'd say probably not. I'd make an exception for Ed Balls, however.

                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  • L Lost User

                    First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    What is the alternative? Boost them as Bogeymen, out to get children? Wallow in their crimes against their fellow men? (The History Channel has that covered, pretty much) Or ignore them, and let them pass out of memory; save for the very few historians? (Who remembers Pol Pot these days, or Yakubu Gowon, or Mengistu Haile Mariam, or Leopold II of Belgium, or Vlad the Impaler, or...) Remember what historians say: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it".

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                    • R Rob Philpott

                      Neither Bush or Blair pulled people out of Congress/Parliament to shoot them in the head, so I'd say probably not. I'd make an exception for Ed Balls, however.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      What about David Kelly? At least Saddam had the balls to do his own dirty work.

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                      • L Lost User

                        What about David Kelly? At least Saddam had the balls to do his own dirty work.

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                        Well, conspiracies aside that was suicide. And yes, a good man ended up dead and the previous Government did have blood on its hands, maybe. But I still don't think there is any comparison between elected democratic leaders and a tyrannical dictator with a penchant for killing his own people.

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          What is the alternative? Boost them as Bogeymen, out to get children? Wallow in their crimes against their fellow men? (The History Channel has that covered, pretty much) Or ignore them, and let them pass out of memory; save for the very few historians? (Who remembers Pol Pot these days, or Yakubu Gowon, or Mengistu Haile Mariam, or Leopold II of Belgium, or Vlad the Impaler, or...) Remember what historians say: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it".

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                          Well Put (or Put Well if you don't mind the order)!

                          Veni, vidi, vici.

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                          • L Lost User

                            First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                            ChrisElston wrote:

                            Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius.

                            Just so long as you don't have voice dialling on your mobile phone turned on. :rolleyes:


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                              Everyone's kid sister is glad you avoided using the word "wood", there.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Yes, and I shall refrain from making the obvious avian references :-D

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                              • R Rob Philpott

                                Well, conspiracies aside that was suicide. And yes, a good man ended up dead and the previous Government did have blood on its hands, maybe. But I still don't think there is any comparison between elected democratic leaders and a tyrannical dictator with a penchant for killing his own people.

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                Rob Philpott wrote:

                                Well, conspiracies aside that was suicide

                                Really? You do realise that that is the only recorded case of somebody successfully committing suicide by slitting their wrists sideways? The reason being that if you slit across your arms ( as Kelly supposedly did) then the arteries are able to clot before you bleed to death (hence how people are able to cut their arms off when trapped and still survive). The only way to kill yourself by slitting your wrists is to slice up the artery (a very hard thing to achieve).

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                                  Well Put (or Put Well if you don't mind the order)!

                                  Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                  CPallini wrote:

                                  if you don't mind the order

                                  Who are you to give me orders? Who do you think you are, Benito Mu... Sorry, sorry, got a little carried away there... :laugh:

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Rob Philpott wrote:

                                    Well, conspiracies aside that was suicide

                                    Really? You do realise that that is the only recorded case of somebody successfully committing suicide by slitting their wrists sideways? The reason being that if you slit across your arms ( as Kelly supposedly did) then the arteries are able to clot before you bleed to death (hence how people are able to cut their arms off when trapped and still survive). The only way to kill yourself by slitting your wrists is to slice up the artery (a very hard thing to achieve).

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                                    Rob Philpott
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                                    Wow, thank goodness for TV journalism. Do you really think if the security services were to do such a thing, they'd make such an obvious mistake?

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      CPallini wrote:

                                      if you don't mind the order

                                      Who are you to give me orders? Who do you think you are, Benito Mu... Sorry, sorry, got a little carried away there... :laugh:

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                                      CPallini
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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      Who are you to give me orders?

                                      You overlooked my signature, didn't you? :-D

                                      Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        First I have heard of this story[^]. A crazy golf course with holes featuring Hitler and Saddam is touring the country and upsetting people who spend their time looking for things to be upset about. Personally I think that a statue of Hitler who raises his arm in salute and shouts "Nein nein nein" when you get the ball through him is genius. Should ridiculing very bad men, making them a part of a children's game, be a bad thing? Or should these men not be used in such frivolous ways because they did such bad, bad things?

                                        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                        Lost User
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                                        For the most part people are outraged first, and then feeling ridiculous for walking around angry for no identified reason, reach out to find something to pin the anger upon.

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                                        • R Rob Philpott

                                          Wow, thank goodness for TV journalism. Do you really think if the security services were to do such a thing, they'd make such an obvious mistake?

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                          40+ years ago then no, in today's day and age yes. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure he didn't commit suicide but I think it would be naive to believe the official story, and the thing I find hard to get my head around is there are numerous accounts of people successfully sawing/biting there hands off to escape when trapped, or getting there hands chopped off as punishment and they survive. How can this not kill you but slicing your wrists can? Afterall that is only half-cutting your hand off. If you can explain this I would be more willing to believe your point of view

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