Apple beats Coca-Cola to emerge as most valuable global brand
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Is there a different default action upon hearing Apple related news?
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There appears to be a more of a Marmite appeal to Apple products here, you either love them or hate them. I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
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I think despite of all the negative news which Apple received in the media, its brand is still a very powerful one. I think the Apple brand is so powerfull because Apple says, all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite, who can afford to be exclusive. We have to admit, their products are really good if you look at the whole (hardware + design + software). What do you think, why Apple's brand is so powerful?
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Gergo Bogdan wrote:
if you own an Apple product your in the elite
Yes if you buy an iPhone you are so special that there are only 9 million others like you this weekend.
Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa
No, 9 millions sold phones does not equal 9 million users. Some phones will still be somewhere in the store, in storage, or still be in gift-wrappings. ..and I'll bet that someone will have tried whether it blends :)
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There appears to be a more of a Marmite appeal to Apple products here, you either love them or hate them. I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
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Simon_Whale wrote:
I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
That is because we couldn't give a rats, these type of threads are for those who care!
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Not that remarkable, considering the the States of Unitedness tend to always give most value to the most useless. As a brand, apple is cr@p, because it's based on ponciness and undeserved elitism. And coca-cola? Actors, sportsmen, pop-stars, all the most useless of people (if you were starving and freezing to death on a deserted island, whom would you want to be there with you?), are treated like deities. Cars that are only good for battle conditions, or climbing roadless mountains, are envied. Etc. For an example of the converse: people who study hard in the sciences, equipping themselves to make a real difference in the quality of life of everyone, are treated like pariahs. so Me = !Surprised
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(Seriously, if it is ever possible here) In what way is Apple "crap" ? (other than anecdotical evidence ) The company releases good products that pleases people, I've not heard massive recalls or huge failures in recent history. It is true that there were and will be crap Apple products (the towers, the cube, some weird mouse, the newton, some map weirdness... ) but the company continued and worked around those. The hardware is good and works as expected, the software works as expected (including the inevitable bugs and quirks). People buy the products, not just the "elite" as someone wrote below, but "moms" and "pops" because it works. If the product was really crap, then reviews would not be good and the product would not sell.
I'd rather be phishing!
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There appears to be a more of a Marmite appeal to Apple products here, you either love them or hate them. I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
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Gergo Bogdan wrote:
if you own an Apple product your in the elite
Yes if you buy an iPhone you are so special that there are only 9 million others like you this weekend.
Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
"Hardware + design + software"? Don't make me laugh :)
The liking of something is a personal thing, either you like it, either not. With that line, I wanted to emphesize, that (IMHO) there is no other company which has a so unified (hardware + software) "environment" for users and Apple knows this. I'm curious why did you write don't make me laugh? Before you say anything I don't work for Apple :-D
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It's in Christian Graus's backyard :laugh:
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Gergo Bogdan wrote:
if you own an Apple product your in the elite
Yes if you buy an iPhone you are so special that there are only 9 million others like you this weekend.
Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa
Actually I wrote: "Apple says, all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite" :) Maybe Apple puts it this way: from 6+ billion people, being in the ~10 million users of Apple products you must be exlcusive - if you look only at the numbers, they can say that.
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Actually I wrote: "Apple says, all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite" :) Maybe Apple puts it this way: from 6+ billion people, being in the ~10 million users of Apple products you must be exlcusive - if you look only at the numbers, they can say that.
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It's in Christian Graus's backyard :laugh:
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Is there a different default action upon hearing Apple related news?
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin
OK, I'd to upvote that one.
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The challenge for Apple is to slow "Samsung's momentum and capture the booming Chinese mobile market." As significantly, the world is awaiting another innovative product from Apple, which could be perhaps the iWatch wearable computer or something completely unexpected, Interbrand said. The company's reputation has, meanwhile, taken some hits after it was found guilty of conspiring with five large book publishers to fix e-book prices, and faced allegations about worker conditions in China at its supplier Foxconn, and ongoing patent disputes with Samsung.
Lesson to learn... Buy Sony :-\
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This is on a rather short-term scale. Coca cola will always be coca-cola. In a few years, Apple will be past.
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This is on a rather short-term scale. Coca cola will always be coca-cola. In a few years, Apple will be past.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
Coca Cola is more successful as they already sold the lifestyle... They just need to keep up appearances and they will keep growing, apple might have surpassed them for now, but a very famous saying states:" That which grows so fast will fall equally as fast" :suss:
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I think despite of all the negative news which Apple received in the media, its brand is still a very powerful one. I think the Apple brand is so powerfull because Apple says, all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite, who can afford to be exclusive. We have to admit, their products are really good if you look at the whole (hardware + design + software). What do you think, why Apple's brand is so powerful?
Apples brand is powerful purely because it is designed to be easy to use - like plug and play it does it for you, good for people on the move. Im not a massive fan of the iOs now though.
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(Seriously, if it is ever possible here) In what way is Apple "crap" ? (other than anecdotical evidence ) The company releases good products that pleases people, I've not heard massive recalls or huge failures in recent history. It is true that there were and will be crap Apple products (the towers, the cube, some weird mouse, the newton, some map weirdness... ) but the company continued and worked around those. The hardware is good and works as expected, the software works as expected (including the inevitable bugs and quirks). People buy the products, not just the "elite" as someone wrote below, but "moms" and "pops" because it works. If the product was really crap, then reviews would not be good and the product would not sell.
I'd rather be phishing!
I didn't say the products (although for every apple product, there are fifty products both cheaper and better -- who in their right mind wants a device with the musical rendition of an ipod, for example?), I said the brand image. Any image-branding that relies on users of mass-available products feeling that they are somehow part of an elite is so short-termist that it will hit rock bottom with a bang (in apple's case, more than once). It's stupid and its cr@p because it cannot last. But that's OK, because the guys at the top and in the marketing departments will still be raking in the dosh; it's only developers who'll get canned. Now that Mr Popularity has gone, there is no-one who can provide the verbal and visual paper to cover over the cracks, so it's extremely likely that they'll run into yet another ditch, quite soon.
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I think despite of all the negative news which Apple received in the media, its brand is still a very powerful one. I think the Apple brand is so powerfull because Apple says, all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite, who can afford to be exclusive. We have to admit, their products are really good if you look at the whole (hardware + design + software). What do you think, why Apple's brand is so powerful?
Gergo Bogdan wrote:
all its products are exclusive, so if you own an Apple product your in the elite
What they neglect to mention in the marketing is that Jethroe, his sister Bobby-Sue, and all their five chillun' got iphones, too.
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There appears to be a more of a Marmite appeal to Apple products here, you either love them or hate them. I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
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Simon_Whale wrote:
I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
Believe it or not, I am on that fence. Their hardware is fine (if a bit prissy in presentation and overpriced for its specs), but even the Windows baby-blocks OS is better for phones and tablets, which is probably why iOS7 is moving in that direction. On pricing, I'm currently awaiting delivery of a second android tab which has better specs (except for the camera and a couple of other things that aren't important to me), and literally costs less than a quarter of the price of my itoy. It's the branding BS, the prices, and the gotta-do-everything-through-itunes that I take exception to. If they start to treat their customers with respect, rather than as mindless followers of fashion who can't be trusted with a file system, I might well invest more in their products.
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Simon_Whale wrote:
I haven't really read from anyone here that sits on the fence regarding Apple.
Believe it or not, I am on that fence. Their hardware is fine (if a bit prissy in presentation and overpriced for its specs), but even the Windows baby-blocks OS is better for phones and tablets, which is probably why iOS7 is moving in that direction. On pricing, I'm currently awaiting delivery of a second android tab which has better specs (except for the camera and a couple of other things that aren't important to me), and literally costs less than a quarter of the price of my itoy. It's the branding BS, the prices, and the gotta-do-everything-through-itunes that I take exception to. If they start to treat their customers with respect, rather than as mindless followers of fashion who can't be trusted with a file system, I might well invest more in their products.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
It's the branding BS, the prices
I read once that an Iphone 5S 64Gb editions costs Apple $219 to make and they sell it for $850
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